Wyvern and Wraith

[Wesker]

69 turn, which is considerably above average. You don't sacrifice DPS in groupfights because 5 guns drain your core, in groupfights the 5 guns matter very little. Once your core reaches 0 (and it will, because as mentioned 100 times already 5 guns drain your core (3 hullbusters drain even a 15k core)), it's all about core regen where Wraith shines over the Wyvern.

Assuming you nail every shot with 100% consistency you'll match the damage ratio yes, but realistically if you put someone with 3 hullbusters up someone's ass and someone with 4. Both players will (if they use their brains which is prolly where you might get me in this) take picky shots to the most damage and conserve core anyways rather than just mindlessly shooting. This would amount to the player with 4 taking the win any day of the week.

In this comparison specifically you conveniently missed that the Wraith has better turn rate (whole 2 degrees), better responsiveness (0.2 which is also a lot) and better core (always a big upgrade) all while saying Wraith has nothing over the Wyvern.

Ok, it has a better responsiveness. That might not make up for the fact that the wraith still has 5 guns (which in a duel will always amount to less damage output unless you're bad), still has a more blocky shape which is simpler to hit, still has less armor. As far as turn rate goes, that's pretty much negated unless you're dumb enough to allow someone to early turn against you. I was wrong, it has a faster turn rate and better responsiveness than the wyvern, yes, does that amount to it being better? Not at all.

That simply isn't true, and if you say those 3 things don't matter then I'll hold your opinion of even less value. Wraith isn't and never was a brick, perhaps the people you fight aren't good enough so you formed a false opinion (or just forming it from regenless ammoless duels in Conn, something Wraith won't be good at because of paper hull and 5 guns).

https://discoverygc.com/wiki/images/b/ba/Rh_elite.png

Tiny block in the front, giant block in the center, thick pancake at the rear.

Looking at it from any other direction and it might as well be a smaller bismarck. Idk, I'm only an average pvper so maybe they were all bad. I've never drawn my opinion all around on ships from regenless duels in conn. If we're going off that opinion, the wraith is actually one of the better ships since it can get away with sliding easier.

I never had a problem dodging in a Wraith. Is the Wyvern better because of the extra gun? Debatable. The only thing it needs is its shield bubble fixed because it was a way to nerf it while it had 6 guns and 72 turn, and we know how overpowered that ship was.

Wouldn't argue it was horribly overpowered. The Marlin had the same stats (actually better) and the only thing that really made it so deadly was it's armor. In comparison to the wraith the Marlin is about the same in terms of simplicity to shoot. The marlin pre-nerf was actually better than the old 72 6 gunner wraith imo.

Nerfing those 2 stats that are less important than stuff like core and responsiveness for groupfights specifically means it's still a great groupfighting ship.

It's sketchy as hell to fight in groups with, and I'd give it less points for its dodging capabilites for the reasons highlighted above. It's core and guns enable it to work with shotguns and shotguns alone. Then again, shotguns are a last resort for any ship not good enough for other guns.

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