(09-19-2018, 06:59 PM)Aristaan Wrote: No action perpetrated by the LSF had any direct intention to incite distaste or upheaval of the faction in any way.
Everything points to the contrary.
(09-19-2018, 06:59 PM)Aristaan Wrote: LSF was clearly carrying out the law in their best interpretation of it. However, any diplomacy regarding the faction will be held as an inRP interaction. What LSF wishes to do in their best interests is up to them based on the events carried out by CR and the LSF in conjunction. It should also be noted that LSF is independent of the Liberty Navy, and acts in the same capacity. If there is a problem with Liberty law, you should have no issues negotiating with Liberty Government to amend those laws.
I think we've made it abundantly clear that we are far beyond the point where we expect realistic, reasonable, and unbiased RP from them, after multiple attempts.
(09-19-2018, 06:59 PM)Aristaan Wrote: Before the accusation of ooRP bias, you should deeply consider how the situation was approached. CR was given 7 opportunities to pay and leave without a painful altercation, and there was certainly opportunity for negotiation of the fine. This was a 30 minute interaction, and the opportunity for action was offered and refused. 4 million is so insignificant to most people's wallets, and an arrangement to negotiate the fine could have also been arranged. Should the fine had been found to be drawn in error, you would have been refunded. By refusing to comply you forfeited your right to dispute it, and your vessels in the process.
Yes, we offered the choice of 4 mil or die, and they talked a long time without making sense or backing down. Is that supposed to be a justification? They're not an unlawful faction or an enemy house, but law enforcement of a house that should be friendly and respect its own laws. We have asked for compensation IRP for the previous incidents, in case you haven't noticed, but they were ignored or refused without justification. I have asked to be escorted, and the very same guys who said I have to have an escort refused to escort me, justification "because". You know perfectly well that paying 4 million and being forbidden to pass through a house unless an official faction, which is hardly every online, agrees to escort you (and then they say "nahh" but refuse to let you pass anyway) is effectively a "stay out" order. But you pretend to be completely oblivious to this and pretend we're being treated fairly.
(09-19-2018, 06:59 PM)Aristaan Wrote: The law has a lot of room for interpretation, and the flexibility to be altered to obtain an agreement where you're permitted with certain class vessels, but this change has not yet been observed, so assume the law will be carried out how it is written.
And the law was the same for years upon years, and nothing like this happened until now, when a few players who refuse to say who they are (one of them, and LPI, has been identified as someone who was sanctioned for trolling CR before), choose to "interpret it differently". And you come here pretending to be entirely oblivious to all of this, but to have the fullest confidence in the players you refuse to name.
