VHF balance

[mjolnir]

VHFs are right now one of the best balanced ship classes in the game. Here I'm suggesting some fine-tuning that is needed to make it perfect from my view. Most of these ideas come from other players than me, I just thought about posting them in one place.

EDIT: I'm adding suggestions made by others later in the thread into this post.

Werewolf

Now:
It has Titan powerplant and great armor, but only 5 guns and it's a huge target from the side as well. Since it's a vanilla ship so the armor doesn't help that much. It's also even less agile than a Titan.

suggested change

Small increase in agility to somewhere between the Titan and Raven's Talon.

EDIT: Changing the lvl 9 slot to lvl 10

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Greyhound - I count it is a VHF since it has VHF turning and powerplant

Now:
4 guns and very bad strafing as well as average turning, big powerplant. Hitbox much bigger than the ship.
post #8 first two pictures
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?s=...st&p=239062

suggested change
1) resize the hitbox to fit better

or

2) Increase strafing

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Stinger

Now:
Sabre powerplant, average agility good turning for a non-vanilla ship. TINY hitbox.
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?sh...=15397&st=0
post # 8 pictures 3 and 4 - defender hitbox without wings that covers like central 1/3 of the ship.

suggested change
Better fitting hitbox.
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Virage

Now
Sabre powerplant, <strike>average agility</strike>,slow strafing, very good turning for a non-vanilla ship. Low armor.. and wrong hitbox
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?s=...st&p=239368
post # 42, on the right.

suggested change
Better fitting hitbox. - resized Dagger?
EDIT: Increase strafing speed a bit?, A bit better agility.

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Raven Claw

Now
Eagle powerplant (small), 8 guns, average agility and turning and wrong hitbox not centered on the ship axis.
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?s=...st&p=242289
post#71 second picture

suggested change
Better fitting hitbox. - resized Dagger again I guess

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Blood Dragon HF

Now
Eagle powerplant (small), great agility and turning as well as tiny size

suggested change - not by me in the first place
Reducing gun level to 2x lvl 8 and 4x lvl 9 or 6x lvl 9.

EDIT: Dab doesn't agree and suggest Chimaera should get armor decrease instead, or Blood Dragon changed to 4x lvl 9 and 2x lvl 10

BUT.. changing weapon slots down is probably not possible without a player wipe.

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Sabre

Now
average powerplant, 6 guns plus turret, great turning, extreme strafing, middle-size target

suggested change
Decrease the turning rate from 1.225 it has now to 1.2.

EDIT: Other suggested increasing mass from 75 to some 100-120 so it's strafing get's a bit worse, but doing that instead of changing turnting rate would destroy the uniqueness of the ship.

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EDIT:

Blunt suggested increasing agility on the Templar, in exchange for something to make it better against KNF ships.

I personally don't think it's necessary since it's actually quite good in dodging and has huge armor. Bretonia
also has really good guns.


EDIT2: Unseile would like the heavy armored and slow VHFs: Titan, Templar, Werewolf even heavier armored (3k for Titan, 1-2k for Templar and Werewolf) to make them even more different.

I think it's a good idea.

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