PVP-Dead.

[Unseelie]

The issue I have with the proposal for rules change that Durandal just put forth is what I call the second layer consequence.

We kill a guy, and he comes back, continues roleplaying. (we cannot attack him)
We kill another guy, and he comes back, continues roleplaying with the first guy we killed. (we cannot attack him, he is PVP dead)

Can Jim, not affiliated with us, come into the system and attack the two guys we kill? Under the proposal, it is unclear. If Jim cannot come into the system and kill this PVP dead person who is sitting at a base, chatting, I think we end up with a situation where, for example, I can role into Alpha on my corsair, get myself killed in front of Malta, and then come back into the system and carry on a rant, a set of insults, or any other roleplay which is insulting to the rightful denizens, and they cannot do anything to stop me.

Getting killed under those rules becomes a free pass to roll in and issue fighting words and taunt the side who killed you for however long the PVP-Dead penalty lasts...

It also removes the language about re-engaging on other characters while you are PVP dead.

Myself, if we are to go that route, I would suggest that a PVP dead character can not come back, but their other characters can, but are not allowed to re-engage untill the PVP dead timer is up. Like so:

4.1 If you die whilst in a PVP situation, in any form, you are considered as ''PVP Dead''. A PVP Dead player:

May not re-enter the system on the dead character until the PVP-Dead period has expired.
May not re-engage (with any character) the characters which killed them until the PVP Dead period has expired.

This is a simpler rule. We could add "cannot trade or mine" if we think that necessary, but I think saying "lost your character to PVP-death, so now you need to get another one, and you cannot re-engage for X amount of time." is a fair enterpretation. If the other ship they bring back into the system happens to be an objectionable group to the victorious party, then they are well within their rights to start their fight again.


But I also want to stress that I think the best thing to do is to reduce the PVP-Dead period to less than 2 hours.

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