They are good in group fights, but bad at smaller skirmishes, maybe up to a 3v3. So, they are good as they are, they work as they intended and you need to adapt the suggestions the people suggested here to beat them. If you got one on your back in a group fight: Bad. but even then you can quickly outturn it in a VHF and get quickly behind it. Saw that during the big NL event, was a SHF. When I could shoot at something: Nice. But when I was the target, I always required help to get rid of the attacker. If I was alone, then I would have been killed a lot more times. They are such slow that you can't dodge properly with them, you need to hope and count on the ability to tank a lot of shots.