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Offline Dab
06-22-2008, 04:53 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-22-2008, 04:55 AM by Dab.)
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' Wrote:Wrath has just 4 lvl 10s, yet Werewolf could get 5 as it is definitelly nowhere near Wrath
Difference in agility between Chimaera and BD is actually quite big, the armor on Chimaera doesn't not help at all against explosives as you know.

BD with Daitos is balanced against Chimaera with anything on. Since the BD can hit the Chimaera more often but does less damage per hit. BD with Codenames or Krakens is not balanced against Chimaera.. and BD with inferno and Daitos is almost uber => if you know how to hit with inferno his shields will always be down, when they are you can "spray and pray" with daitos while he tries to dent your shield.

I for one think it should keep the agility to be different, but I can't see how lowering gun Class to 9 or 2x8 4x9 makes it useless. If you use the "normal" BD loadout which is now 2 Debilitators 4 Daitos you won't see any difference.
The Inferno + 8.33 refire weap thing has nothing to do with the BD. I could do that in a Sabre just the same.. Thats a weapon issue, not a ship issue. Also, Explosives hurt the BD as much as they hurt the Chimaera. Chimaera takes more explosives however. A single cannonball will kill a BD, but only almost kill a Chim. And a BD with Codenames or Krakens is equal to a Chimaera with Codenames or Krakens.. Again, a weapon issue, not a ship one. Also, 2 Debs and 4 Daitos are NOT the 'normal' loadout. Its the 'I want to win' loadout. You will NEVER see my Kiretsu, or any other Kiretsu with that loadout. We have a 1 (thats one) deb limit, and I tell people not to use Blood Dragon weaponry. We use Disinfectors and Suncannons, and then codenames on bombers. No Krakens, no Wyrms, no Daitos. As far as I know, the GC don't use Krakens either.. And anyone who DOES should stop doing so..

This is a ship comparison, not a weaponry one. OORP loadouts are no reason to nerf a ship. Heck, a Sabre with 2 Tizonas and 4 Krakens would be extremely unbalanced to.. That doesn't mean we should be nerfing the Sabre.

' Wrote:It was actually Terrance that suggested this FYI, not me.
Thats because he spent half the duel we had just trying to get me in his screen long enough to shoot.. And he probably uses that Deb + Daito loadout too, so it won't hurt him.. However, it WILL hurt everyone who uses RP loadouts on those BD HFs, like 6 Suncannons, 6 Disinfectors, 6 Daitos, etc.


And Jonathan is correct.. Sabre is extremely easy to hit without strafe. Bigger target than the Titan. If Strafe is to be nerfed, don't increase mass passed 100.

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VHF balance - by mjolnir - 06-16-2008, 08:15 PM
VHF balance - by Othman - 06-16-2008, 08:21 PM
VHF balance - by Jinx - 06-16-2008, 08:21 PM
VHF balance - by Yngen - 06-16-2008, 08:40 PM
VHF balance - by mjolnir - 06-16-2008, 09:05 PM
VHF balance - by Zapp - 06-16-2008, 09:37 PM
VHF balance - by McNeo - 06-16-2008, 09:51 PM
VHF balance - by RingoW - 06-16-2008, 10:10 PM
VHF balance - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 06-16-2008, 10:25 PM
VHF balance - by mjolnir - 06-16-2008, 10:28 PM
VHF balance - by Tenacity - 06-16-2008, 10:28 PM
VHF balance - by Jinx - 06-16-2008, 10:30 PM
VHF balance - by Blodo - 06-16-2008, 10:48 PM
VHF balance - by mjolnir - 06-16-2008, 11:06 PM
VHF balance - by Blodo - 06-16-2008, 11:19 PM
VHF balance - by Dab - 06-16-2008, 11:42 PM
VHF balance - by mjolnir - 06-17-2008, 12:00 AM
VHF balance - by mjolnir - 06-20-2008, 02:24 PM
VHF balance - by Hector - 06-20-2008, 02:40 PM
VHF balance - by bluntpencil2001 - 06-21-2008, 03:18 PM
VHF balance - by mjolnir - 06-21-2008, 03:25 PM
VHF balance - by AdamantineFist - 06-21-2008, 03:29 PM
VHF balance - by Unseelie - 06-21-2008, 03:38 PM
VHF balance - by legeonation - 06-21-2008, 11:38 PM
VHF balance - by mjolnir - 06-22-2008, 12:18 AM
VHF balance - by Jonathan_Archer_nx01 - 06-22-2008, 04:14 AM
VHF balance - by Dab - 06-22-2008, 04:53 AM
VHF balance - by mjolnir - 06-22-2008, 11:08 AM
VHF balance - by Jihadjoe - 06-22-2008, 01:19 PM
VHF balance - by mjolnir - 06-22-2008, 02:02 PM
VHF balance - by Dab - 06-22-2008, 05:05 PM
VHF balance - by old.steel - 06-22-2008, 08:36 PM
VHF balance - by Lohingren - 06-23-2008, 04:31 AM
VHF balance - by Varyag - 07-15-2008, 09:45 PM
VHF balance - by Jihadjoe - 07-15-2008, 10:07 PM
VHF balance - by chopper - 07-16-2008, 12:03 AM
VHF balance - by Zapp - 07-21-2008, 12:20 AM
VHF balance - by mjolnir - 07-21-2008, 12:45 AM
VHF balance - by chopper - 07-21-2008, 02:20 PM
VHF balance - by mjolnir - 07-21-2008, 02:29 PM
VHF balance - by chopper - 07-21-2008, 05:43 PM

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