XA- Xeno Alliance

[Reeves]

The problem with this, is how Xenos lack real resources and manpower to actually grow, not to mention produce/operate capital ships, they are radical terrorists who are not that numerous, therefore it's hard to decide what their "Shipline" should be, or not to mention if they could afford building their own, with tools they don't really have.

manpower

Not a problem. Might have been a problem when the Xenos were first founded but certainly not in the present-day.

they are radical terrorists who are not that numerous

Refrain from imposing your own uneducated interpretations of other factions into a thread asking for design suggestions. We most obviously know our faction better than you do. And if you have misconceptions in need of clarification then direct them to our feedback thread. We are more than happy to educate you with the correct facts.

RP factors

By this logic many unlawful factions with the exception of one or two would have their own ships and none except the Hispanic unlawfuls would have their own warships. We aren't producing a capital ship-line so I'm confused where some of this is coming from.

I would appreciate if people posting adhered to what Lucas asked for, which is feedback and suggestions. This is not a thread for you to discuss Xeno lore or your perceptions of the faction. There's a place for that and it most certainly isn't here.

Just saying you have grown, doesn't make it canon.

Referencing vanilla infocards, doesn't also make it canon.

Just sayin' , my "uneducated" guess is as good as any

Just saying you have grown, doesn't make it canon.

Referencing vanilla infocards, doesn't also make it canon.

Just sayin' , my uneducated guess is as good as any

Put your uneducated guesses in the right thread. That isn't here.

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Referencing this, and besides you being snarky about it, I would like to get some clarification indeed, as I admit I haven't followed 100% of what you have Roleplayed, and of course what you have Roleplayed doesn't make it canon either, unless it's accepted by the story team, right?

This being said,

Please do elaborate on your population growth over time, without referencing non-canon vanilla infocards(Which are suggestive, not canon for those who did not know), also the reasons why people have joined the radical agenda to actually leave their lives behind to build up a proper resistance, ships, blueprints, knowledge & engineers, equipment and with tools and resources they get from their supposed powerful supportive allies they don't quite have.

If your basis for that Roleplay you are referring to is logical, I stand corrected...Some clarification here would help a great deal

Thank you in advance.

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Feedback for future reference. I'll attach it to this post and respond as the 1ic. This is probably going to end up being a wall of text but bear with me because I'd rather explain this fully and put notions to rest for good than address them continually.

First and foremost, I'll address your attempts to be snarky and funny with serious answers. Let's start with some accepted vanilla lore, which if you denied would be laughable as then the basic principles behind every faction that comes from vanilla would fall apart.

This group was originally comprised of heavy manufacturing and mining workers within Colorado and Texas. Many of their ancestors also worked in the research station, which was a good employer for generations. But Liberty increasingly made money from its information technology licensing and Trade Lane associated monopolies rather than hard, manufactured goods. Over time most of the blue-collar workers became unemployed and were pushed to the economic fringe of Liberty society. As the Liberty rich moved to Colorado to escape the paradise lost in California, the Xenos were displaced to a small base in the mined out Silverton Asteroid Field. Once there the Xenos launched sporadic raids focused against foreign shippers.

Whenever they were captured they were sent to Huntsville prison in Texas, where cross-fertilization with other inmates only helped to swell their ranks. Xenos also hate the foreigner Outcasts that feed the habits of Liberty's morally corrupt rich. For this reason, most of those declared NCR for drug crimes are placed aboard the Sugarland to keep the two groups separate.

I've highlighted some points of importance. The entire thing is of course important in terms of giving you flavour but what I've referenced for you is likely the most important things to consider. Let's go for the biggest elephant in the room, our recruitment demographic and where we draw personnel from:

1) Every evil terrorist group needs henchmen. What's a better market for this than in Liberty? The amount of people living in abject poverty and with absolutely no civil rights is perhaps high enough to constitute a crisis. But Liberty does a good job of keeping this under wraps or brushed aside. Look no further than Pittsburgh, a vanilla planet with an extremely high population. Notice that what DSE is doing with said planet is essentially running slave camps filled with whatever labour they can acquire. In fact the infocard seems to imply that most of them are foreign. What do you do with your locals who can't work as fast or for the same cheap rates? The LPI sends them to a prison station for any crime that sticks and thus they become slaves to the system for the term of their sentence. What do you think people who have been subjected to things like this are going to do? Are they going to be logical? No. They're incredibly bitter and hateful of what they've endured at the hands of their own Government and the foreign labour replacing them. These people join the Xenos. And they can be quite compelling, especially to people at rock-bottom, which is a significant number. Not a massive number, but one worth attention. For every Xeno that gets sent to prison two more come out. This is simply how they draw members. Blue collar workers have varied backgrounds, but most commonly they have all at least been basically educated. Be they laborers or mechanics. This is how we have people capable of performing the basic repairs and work required to not only sustain snub-craft but develop our own crude weapons that get the job done.

How does this translate to having skilled labour? The Xenos have existed for no insignificant amount of time. That much is clear. Give anything enough time and it will inevitably go somewhere. No doubt the Xenos have been much slower to develop than their rivals, this does not mean they are incapable of it. They are only just now, after quite possibly centuries of existence, developing fighters. When almost all of their rivals can at least maintain their own gunboats. The reality is that the Xenos still cannot afford to develop massive amounts of hardware. It's a problem of cash flow. The balance sheet has gotten better, but it's not nearly high enough to sustain assets that factions like the Lane Hackers and Liberty Police do. This does not mean that the Xenos explicitly lack manpower for expansion. It's extremely likely they have the bodies, but not always the tools or the cash to properly equip them with. That much is acknowledged and held sacred by every Xeno faction. The concept of having absolutely nothing left to lose is what motivates these grunts.

2) Engineers and other skilled labour would by all logical means come in the form of disgruntled former servants of the Republic. These recruitment numbers would be much smaller than the main composition, but they would be worth much more than the rabble just by the weight of their qualifications. Before you try to reference HF or Harmony, please understand that once again the Xenos have existed for a very long time. The Government is notorious for budget cuts and lay-offs in times of peace and the Xenos do not harbour excessive malice for the Navy like some other unlawful factions do. Therefore as a former serviceman with no job anymore and no place to go, but with the skills to either fight, create or maintain, it seems logical that you would fall in with people in the same position. Of course there is an appeal to joining other factions that draw primarily from this pool, this is where the bulk of these numbers likely go. But not everyone is impressed by factions like the Legion or the Separatists who have a lot of blue blood on their hands.

Moving on. I'll address your careless remark about not having either allies or support. You are factually wrong in stating this. For we do presently have an alliance agreement and an underhand arrangement with the Legion and Universal Shipping respectively. The former gives us a great deal of equipment and most likely training, while the latter provides us with material support in the form of basic resources needed for operation. Universal is also our extension into Liberty politics as I highlighted above. Both these relations have existed for years now and have been represented as such.

The people who join the Xenos do not have lives to leave behind, or at least not one worth going back to. And in Liberty, it's a tragic reality that there are many of these people. The exceptionally brilliant and most enterprising go to the Hackers. Those with enough hate and a grudge to see the rest of the Sector pay for stealing their lives go to the Xenos. And those not-so quick opportunists fall in with the Rogues. It's exceptionally easy to become radical and hateful in the dystopian universe of Freelancer. And Liberty's Government and Police provide a chunk of its people with plenty of reasons to resort to nothing short of crude reprisal.

Combine this with recent developments and you have an answer. Take it or leave it.

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