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Offline Vexykin
05-04-2019, 09:15 PM,
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While all the points you made are valid, you forget the most important part, your resistance.
You may grow as a faction, but you don't take account how many enemies Xenos have against their radical ideals, they are even more hated than regular scummy Pirates who live their life for self-gain, so therefore your flawed logic is only based on growth, rather than actually thinking it through logically, that you also have very powerful enemies, siding you from all angles.

While the lore's base makes sense, and the recruitment process as well, and you have enlightened me on various aspects, it's mostly nothing I did not already know.

Take your surrounding enemies and their capabilities throughout last Disco-Years (Not Vanilla years) , think of how much resistance you've got from much larger organizations who are opposing you.

(05-04-2019, 07:01 PM)Reeves Wrote: First and foremost, I'll address your attempts to be snarky and funny with serious answers. Let's start with some accepted vanilla lore, which if you denied would be laughable as then the basic principles behind every faction that comes from vanilla would fall apart.
Calling me snarky and unfunny, isn't relevant, especially if you started being snarky in the first place and I already called you out on that Wink
If you can't take criticism, without being snarky, then you are not fit to lead an Official Faction in the first place.
But enough NO U'ing, as I'm trying to leave feedback here and perhaps gain insight on your faction even more, I'm not here to thumb you down, I'm simply using my logic against the current case here.

(05-04-2019, 07:01 PM)Reeves Wrote: Notice that what DSE is doing with said planet is essentially running slave camps filled with whatever labour they can acquire. In fact the infocard seems to imply that most of them are foreign. What do you do with your locals who can't work as fast or for the same cheap rates? The LPI sends them to a prison station for any crime that sticks and thus they become slaves to the system for the term of their sentence. What do you think people who have been subjected to things like this are going to do? Are they going to be logical? No. They're incredibly bitter and hateful of what they've endured at the hands of their own Government and the foreign labour replacing them. These people join the Xenos.

While I agree this gives a motivational point to actually join the radical Xenos to many, but not many are interested in suicidal tendencies and to become an all active terrorist with patriotism in heart, some may flee to another house, or flee to somewhere desolate to find peace, or yet join Liberty Rogues along the way, who live the simple life without obligations, rather than become a radical terrorist with a mission. (PS: Not being biased about my faction here)
I'm thinking this as myself, would I turn in to a terrorist after such subjugations, and perhaps have a rather low lifespan or I would choose the life of the free and perhaps survive even longer, while getting a chance to also resist against the government, and would rather choose the life with some benefits, or even earn trust and break free?
I would rather do anything to become free from the corruption and find myself somewhere desolate to live my days off peacefully elsewhere. (Even if that would come with strings attached)
Of course, it's a no point to argue where they will likely go, as it would really be random, as they may escape the slave camps, they may escape prisons, they may be helped by Xenoes, they may be helped by Hackers, Rogues, Hellfire, or whoever decides to free them to gain any kind of profit off it.
Rogues would most likely either keep them as slaves, until they've earned their freedom, or as janitors, or also recruit them to our ranks, Hackers would likely do similar things, depending on the knowledge of the individuals, or any other faction/group radicalist/activist, thus your opinion on this is rather self-absorbed to think like that all the slaves will automatically become patriotic and wanting to resist the government with patriotism at heart.
Some are tender in their hearts, even after such subjugations, and just want to live their last days/months/years being free.

Same self-absorbed mentality is going on here:

(05-04-2019, 07:01 PM)Reeves Wrote: Therefore as a former serviceman with no job anymore and no place to go, but with the skills to either fight, create or maintain, it seems logical that you would fall in with people in the same position. Of course there is an appeal to joining other factions that draw primarily from this pool, this is where the bulk of these numbers likely go. But not everyone is impressed by factions like the Legion or the Separatists who have a lot of blue blood on their hands.

(05-04-2019, 07:01 PM)Reeves Wrote: Moving on. I'll address your careless remark about not having either allies or support. You are factually wrong in stating this. For we do presently have an alliance agreement and an underhand arrangement with the Legion and Universal Shipping respectively. The former gives us a great deal of equipment and most likely training, while the latter provides us with material support in the form of basic resources needed for operation. Universal is also our extension into Liberty politics as I highlighted above. Both these relations have existed for years now and have been represented as such.

Regarding my question for resources.
I actually legit forgot your secret alliance with USI. Yeah, that's the only insight I've got so far from this, aside from other small details.

I'm not denying any growth within Xeno movement, but I legit doubt this to be so rapid.

TL;DR: People are born, people die. It's the circle of life.


EDIT: Regarding the ancient feedback thread, I think it's more relevant to post here, as you are applying for officialdom, and any recent feedback would be of more relevance here. After either gaining/failing the OF status, these posts can be moved/merged to the aforementioned ancient feedback thread.
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XA- Xeno Alliance - by Xeno Alliance - 03-16-2019, 07:47 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Dino - 03-16-2019, 12:32 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Lythrilux - 03-16-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Alex. - 03-16-2019, 03:49 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Xeno Alliance - 03-16-2019, 04:10 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Wesker - 03-16-2019, 04:57 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Loken - 03-16-2019, 07:16 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Xeno Alliance - 03-17-2019, 05:15 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Vexykin - 03-26-2019, 01:40 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Vexykin - 05-04-2019, 06:20 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Reeves - 05-04-2019, 07:01 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Kanzler Niemann - 05-04-2019, 07:49 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Vexykin - 05-04-2019, 09:15 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Wildkins - 05-04-2019, 10:25 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Evo - 05-05-2019, 12:27 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Reeves - 05-05-2019, 04:41 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Vexykin - 05-05-2019, 10:16 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Reeves - 05-05-2019, 10:34 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Chuba - 05-05-2019, 10:36 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Vexykin - 05-05-2019, 10:42 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Dino - 05-31-2019, 03:22 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Reeves - 05-31-2019, 03:27 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Jayce - 05-31-2019, 03:30 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Reeves - 05-31-2019, 05:11 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Thexare - 05-31-2019, 10:14 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by pillow - 05-31-2019, 05:29 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Corile - 05-31-2019, 05:51 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Egon Bigmemes - 05-31-2019, 05:55 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by pillow - 05-31-2019, 05:58 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Jeremy Hunter - 05-31-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Wesker - 05-31-2019, 06:45 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Backo - 05-31-2019, 07:00 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Evo - 05-31-2019, 07:00 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by t0l - 05-31-2019, 07:01 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Chuba - 05-31-2019, 07:20 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by pillow - 05-31-2019, 07:21 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Goliath - 05-31-2019, 07:24 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Kauket - 05-31-2019, 07:25 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Megaera - 05-31-2019, 09:43 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Laz - 05-31-2019, 10:17 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Lythrilux - 05-31-2019, 10:25 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Skeptic Jester - 05-31-2019, 10:42 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Greed - 06-01-2019, 12:57 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Evo - 06-01-2019, 01:58 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by SnakeLancerHaven - 06-01-2019, 03:04 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by TheShooter36 - 06-01-2019, 03:31 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Nepotu - 06-01-2019, 03:41 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Skorak - 06-01-2019, 03:43 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by xiphos - 06-01-2019, 04:49 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Skorak - 06-01-2019, 04:50 PM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Xalrok - 07-01-2019, 01:02 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Miaou - 07-01-2019, 01:16 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Egon Bigmemes - 07-01-2019, 08:34 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Karlotta - 07-01-2019, 09:06 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Egon Bigmemes - 07-01-2019, 09:15 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by GuapMan - 07-01-2019, 09:30 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Loken - 07-01-2019, 10:43 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Spectre - 07-01-2019, 01:24 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Omicron - 07-01-2019, 01:30 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Moka - 07-01-2019, 01:34 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Megaera - 07-01-2019, 01:37 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Reeves - 07-01-2019, 01:57 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Nekrotalis - 07-01-2019, 02:37 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by James Greed - 07-01-2019, 09:04 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Laz - 07-01-2019, 09:20 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Egon Bigmemes - 07-01-2019, 09:28 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Karlotta - 07-01-2019, 09:45 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by SnakThree - 07-01-2019, 09:35 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Reeves - 07-01-2019, 09:40 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Karlotta - 07-01-2019, 10:04 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Laz - 07-01-2019, 09:56 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by Kazinsal - 07-01-2019, 10:48 AM
RE: XA- Xeno Alliance - by pillow - 07-01-2019, 10:57 AM

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