(12-19-2019, 10:24 AM)Karlotta Wrote: Where did you get the idea that if some nomad players decided to shoot stuff in liberty, that would be reflected in the next patch update?
How would you prevent that entire houses and all of other players accomplishment/stories/factions get wiped out by a few dickheads?
How would you decide what gets built in to the mod and what wouldn't?
Full scale raids would cause damage. I'm not saying 4 people yeeting around in snubs are gonna affect much. Ish'tars, GBs, and snub wings will absolutely break things.
Accomplishments are lost all the time. That's what makes things matter. That's what makes people care enough to log on. Stories are exactly that. The story. If you hold on to the past, Fine, if you don't, big deal. And don't get me started on factions. Lets just say LWB first. Then remind everyone that Vanilla factions that are hella important don't even have full shiplines. Xenos, LH, and Bundschuh, to name a few. And the Molly's are just Ctrl+C Ctrl+V'd Rouges.
As for what gets built in, anything that is impactful should be reflected in the universe. Massive battles, Player owned Base destructions, those kinds of things should leave behind wreckage that the junkers or some other "clean up crew" could take advantage of.
(12-19-2019, 10:24 AM)Karlotta Wrote: How would you keep this enjoyable enough for developers that they'd be willing to keep running after players ideas of what should happen?
How would you find the manpower to do it?
How would you prevent such a system from devolving into some crock story situation that everypartyinvolved absolutely hates? (cough cough IMG)
If you really want what you said you did, you need to start answering all these questions.
So far I've seen no serious attempts to answer any of these questions from the people who want something like that.
Well, first off, not "what should happen." It should be "what did happen." If, say, the Bretonia Intelligence brings back massive loads of science data and other things, and they provide convincing enough role-play, both in the game and in the forums, then they should be able to create new guns. The thing that everyone want's to hold against this ideal I have is "but everyone will just say that their cannon is different." The past is set in stone. What happened, happened. People shouldn't just be able to go to a random point in history and say "well, actually, this thing happened that led to us having 10 Battlecruisers that we stole from another faction", because not only is that stupid, it's also basically happened. I'm exaggerating numbers, of course, but other than that, please convince me that the story of Auxusia was any different. If this game was based in what is happening, then the developers wouldn't need to worry about random players ideas of what should happen. The only thing that would happen would be what the players DID.
As for manpower, how many devs have retired on the grounds of "they can't stand (insert person here)"? How many people could partially develop things, such as ships? What's to stop factions with decent reason from designing their own ships, and simply running it by the devs? There would be more unique ideas, and less copypaste. Factions would grow at more reasonable rates, presumably, and the devs workload would be much lighter.
Preventing the system from devolving is not much of an issue if all these other criteria have been met. The story of IMG has been quoted to me a lot, and as far as I could tell, it was simply because someone and/or a large group of someones got used to a pattern, and when something sought to break said pattern, they became illogically angry over it, and dragged everyone around them into it. But, on the note of crock stories that every party involved hates, the current powers-at-be have forced this Rhineland Kusari war on to us for a while now, even though neither side cares, and have declared ceasefire. The only answer I ever got from anyone was "maybe the devs think its generating activity" from someone who was making fun of it with me.
Does this meet your standards of 'A serious attempt to answer all of those questions'?
