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[Poll] RCR Fee Reduction

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Poll: What should the Roleplay Canonization Request Fee be reduced to?
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500 million Refundable on Success
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20 50.00%
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[Poll] RCR Fee Reduction
Offline Lythrilux
12-22-2019, 02:12 AM,
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(12-19-2019, 11:40 PM)Foxglove Wrote:
Durandal Wrote:I can think of no meaningful argument against the idea that the requesting party should not show substantial investment in making a change to the canonical setting. These criteria exist to ensure the people requesting are all in on the request, and that it's not another flash in the pan.

This is just a Reverse Uno Card. It fails to argue why the status quo should change and instead demands reasons why the fee is a bad idea (which have been stated many times already).

(12-19-2019, 11:40 PM)Foxglove Wrote: At the end of the day, why does anything cost anything? Why do cloak batteries cost anything if they're just a fuel that needs to be there because the game mechanics need a consumable? The heart of any online game is the grind, which is why SRPs cost credits, and official faction creation costs money. One can argue about the amount, but the general point remains unconstestable.

Apples and oranges. Those things have consistently cost money and have not been the product of spontaneous monetization of something that was once free. The point is easily contestable with those factors taken into consideration. Furthermore, good grind is more than just applying layers of bureaucracy and credits onto existing systems to make players play longer - quite obviously efforts to increase the artificial grind have not resulted in a positive boon to the player count. At the end of the day grind also needs to be fun, and I think most people can agree trading is a boring chore.

Here's another question: How does an RCR fee, or the RCR in general, make the game more fun? If it's not possible to competently answer that, then the validity and design of the RCR to server health should immediately be brought into question.

(12-19-2019, 11:40 PM)Foxglove Wrote: All in all, if your only point of contention is needing to play the game and earn Freelancer bucks to have access to an extraordinary bit of consideration put into your idea how other people should spend their time (which is essentially what you're doing if you propose something is developed a certain way), then I guess, that's just your opinion. The amount is being up for debate, as you see.

For the majority of veteran players, players such as you and I, this amount of money isn't too taxing on our bank accounts. But I think this perspective is the biggest mistake of the RCR, and how it's not been designed from the perspective of new players or people who may have the slightest interest to play Discovery. Why are we designing systems around an ever-shrinking community of veterans? It's almost like an attempt to make Disco even more closed and gated. I don't think that's healthy design at all. In the end, it'll just lead to a handful of people playing alone in a sandpit of crumbling sandcastles.

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Messages In This Thread
[Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Xalrok - 12-19-2019, 08:11 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Typrop - 12-19-2019, 08:13 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Groshyr - 12-19-2019, 08:18 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Thunderer - 12-19-2019, 08:29 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Couden - 12-19-2019, 08:47 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Durandal - 12-19-2019, 08:56 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Shiki - 12-19-2019, 11:46 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Karlotta - 12-20-2019, 12:08 AM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Goliath - 12-19-2019, 08:59 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Karlotta - 12-19-2019, 09:49 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Foxglove - 12-19-2019, 09:55 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Lythrilux - 12-19-2019, 10:42 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Foxglove - 12-19-2019, 11:40 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Lythrilux - 12-22-2019, 02:12 AM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Binski - 12-19-2019, 11:26 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Xalrok - 12-20-2019, 12:39 AM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Bannorn - 12-20-2019, 03:45 AM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Durandal - 01-04-2020, 01:00 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Lythrilux - 01-04-2020, 07:01 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Foxglove - 01-04-2020, 07:10 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Lythrilux - 01-04-2020, 07:21 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Alestone - 01-04-2020, 04:12 PM
RE: [Poll] RCR Fee Reduction - by Foxglove - 01-04-2020, 07:36 PM

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