(12-22-2019, 03:06 AM)Raa'ta Wrote: Do I feel sorry for this unlucky soul behind of the first OC BC? Yes, I do. But here goes another question: Would he take part in interesting battle or rather interesting gank? Was there chances that we would get the same situation but with additional BC on OC side? As I've said before, I see, that Deck's complaints are not coming from the only one encounter - probably something made Enclave playerbase believe, that there is no fair play from OC side and something forced them to kill this battlecruiser as fast as possible. Moreover, even if he wouldn't die, it's still would be a large disadvantage for our side, resulting in two scenarios:
1) The guy stands back and does nothing and leaves disappointed without single blue message.
2) He will ganks us with the rest of teamTM
We arrived with one Sarissa, one SRP (I honestly don't know if its a Cruiser or a Battlecruiser or a Hybrid of sorts), as well as what I believe was a cruiser and of course a fighter. You, on the other hand, had a Battlecruiser, a Gunboat, a Cruiser and two bombers present. I do not think that this is completely balanced but in my eyes this is not something to complain about either. Had you played together properly, then you would have won. As Sava mentioned, IRMM + friends contains newer players and people that are new(-ish) to Fleet Combat and that could have been exploited.
I guess, that you forgot to add also a battlecruiser, named MNS-Cardamine.Knight. Now, two battlecruisers (let's assume that this SRP is one), cruiser and a bs isn't even more or less close to fair terms, comparing to cruiser, battlecruiser, gunboat and a couple of bombers. Even with one battlecruiser, it would be utterly gank-ish. And I don't know where this belief that we are god-like pvp players comes from. It was the first time when I flew a gallic dessie, which is considered as a bad one even by good players, and I'm totally not a good cap player myself. I doubt, that Jeuge is a killing machine as well. And finally take into consideration fact, that we lost some regens to this OC BC and silently engaging LSF carrier (I lost almost all of them for example).
So yeah, I will break it down: It was a gank and this feedback message doesn't come from single encounter, as I believe.
I do not believe you guys are god-tier pvpers, otherwise I would not have mentioned that you could have won.
The BC you speak of was not there when the fight started. I wish I recorded the fight but at first, there was one lone cruiser/BC at 6e that spottet you and we ended up grouping around him with the Battleship and SRP and me arriving afterward. Gotta be honest, I have not looked at what we had afterward (because I left as soon as the Valor was engaged due to it being around 1:30am for me already and I was really tired lol) and I didn't notice another cap joining us.
If I may recommend something then it would be that both parties speak to each other before they fight next time to see what each other has in terms of combat strength and skill so future situations similar to this can be avoided.
Sadly I'm not in a position to talk about other encounters as I have not been part of them, but in behalf of IRMM and the MNS- Indies present I would like to apologize to everyone that participated in the fight yesterday, because it was not our intent to gank or make sure you have no fun by other means.
