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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring
Offline Jinx
07-02-2008, 10:11 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-02-2008, 10:21 AM by Jinx.)
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@nathrael:

while your point is most certainly right and just. - there is still a difference there between putting a limitation into RP and a limitation into a general rule. for every BHG that acts out of his parameter, i can show you someone of another faction that acts the same. - however, weighing up ooRPness is nither what we want nor does it help much.

fact is - a lot of BHGs act with much more freedom than other factions. of course, i can do a lot more things - especially focussed on pvp - on my BHG char, than i can do on my zoner or gaian char. - so i wouldn t justify the actions of those that act out of order.
but one must also keep in mind that it is still roleplay ( including all the "you are not supposed to do" and the "you are supposed to do" stuff ) - for example. - if a criminal that was caught red handed is retreating into a debris field - straight to a junker base. - the lawfuls may follow him - or ... in RP, think its too much trouble and let him go. - while the LPI might think its too much trouble ( thats what the NPCs do ) - the BHG might not think so. - the result is them lurking around the place this player has docked on.

the outcome is that the BHGs feel "wrong" in that place - and surely are... but its not the BHGs alone to blame. - it was said quite some times. - if a base is to be held secret, i must make sure that those that are allowed to dock there hold it secret. - a responsibility that gotto be realized.

edit: proposing an admin aproval of a warship license has been discussed and shot down. - capital ships and fighters are treated the very same. for both, you need a good roleplay - for the former you need more responsibility - but that has to be proven by everyone, playerfactions, non-playerfactions, lawfuls, unlawfuls and neutrals.

ooc chat is unrelated to both, the ships they fly and the factions they belong to. - thats a violation to a rule - and if it does make one mad, one is free to report it. - if however, one does not feel that its a sanctionable incident, - well, there is no need to mention it.

@Eternal:

well, the point was not to put it into the ID as a rule. when all other factions and IDs commit a roleplay violation, why should the BHG commit a server rule violation when they go there. thats a whole different quality of violations. - furthermore, the BHG has a RP background to invade omicron-100, - i know its a guard system and guard rules apply, BUT - it is also a special case of warfare - so the guard system can be defended as the faction pleases ( and we know from former posts, that playerfactions have the numbers and the power to destroy any casual intruder - so whats the big deal. - shoot them down and thats it )

personally, i wouldn t mind if alaska JG was shut down - just like magellan / new york. - why? - well, its a secret system that not even the highest ranking officers actually know of much. - more a conspiracy for a selected circle of .... ( in that case ) highest ranking NPCs ( yes, NPCs ) - and again we are in a conflict when players start to impersonate these NPCs. - a gate cannot be locked for all but a few players. its either open or its shut down. - if the truth is that the gate is open to NO ONE but like 0.000001% of the liberty navy officers - the majority would call for the gate to be locked.

cause that way - only 0.0000001% of the players need to roleplay that they HAVE access ( doesn t mean they go there ) - while all the rest ... well, they don t need to RP not to go there, cause as a matter of fact... they can t.

so the question stands - why do we not want the alaska JG to be shut down altogether - what reasons do we have to keep it up - and just roleplay for a selected few to be able to go there. no faction deploys a standing fleet of defenders there from what i know - so its really only NPCs there. the order comes from their own side, so do the nomads.

@kingvaliant:

while i do agree with your arguments - at least from a RP point of view ( from a point of view concerning fairness of how factions are treated alike, i disagree ) - the patrolling map is no argument for that case. - omicron-delta shows no patrolling paths cause these gotto be edited into the map. yet, its undeniable that the BHG patrols that system heavily. - BHGs were added with disco, thats why they have no patrol paths.

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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Tenacity - 06-27-2008, 03:15 AM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by rhodes - 06-27-2008, 03:34 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by worldstrider - 06-27-2008, 04:18 AM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Tenacity - 06-27-2008, 05:44 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Tarkis - 06-27-2008, 06:03 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Tenacity - 06-27-2008, 06:06 AM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Jinx - 06-27-2008, 06:24 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by worldstrider - 06-27-2008, 06:36 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by GADC - 06-27-2008, 06:37 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Tenacity - 06-27-2008, 06:40 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Reverend Del - 06-27-2008, 06:46 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by worldstrider - 06-27-2008, 06:50 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Eternal - 06-27-2008, 06:58 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Teknikal - 06-27-2008, 07:17 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Tenacity - 06-27-2008, 07:35 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Chucc - 06-27-2008, 08:20 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Internity - 06-27-2008, 08:44 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by El Nino - 06-27-2008, 08:52 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by mrlance - 06-27-2008, 09:27 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Blodo - 06-27-2008, 10:41 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by worldstrider - 06-27-2008, 10:54 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Mr.Masters - 06-27-2008, 10:55 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Chucc - 06-27-2008, 10:55 AM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by NonSequitor - 06-27-2008, 12:35 PM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Jinx - 06-27-2008, 01:07 PM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Athenian - 06-27-2008, 01:51 PM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Tenacity - 06-27-2008, 04:20 PM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Scaramanga - 06-27-2008, 04:51 PM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Reverend Del - 06-27-2008, 04:59 PM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Tenacity - 06-27-2008, 05:03 PM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Eppy - 06-27-2008, 05:59 PM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Vtec - 06-27-2008, 06:03 PM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Epholl - 06-27-2008, 06:16 PM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by kingvaillant - 06-27-2008, 06:35 PM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 06-27-2008, 07:41 PM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by RickJames - 06-27-2008, 10:10 PM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 06-28-2008, 04:12 AM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 06-28-2008, 05:03 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Tenacity - 06-28-2008, 05:08 AM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 06-28-2008, 05:20 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Teknikal - 06-28-2008, 07:42 AM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Black Widow - 07-01-2008, 02:31 PM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Laowai - 07-01-2008, 08:08 PM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Raekur - 07-02-2008, 01:44 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 07-02-2008, 01:56 AM
suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Linkus - 07-02-2008, 03:15 AM
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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 07-02-2008, 07:54 AM
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