Pirating, amount of money

[BaconSoda]

You brought it up, i just responded. Now your saying that pirates shouldn't negotiate with a Trader, yet you stated earlyer Traders should negotiate with pirates.... Make up your mind.
A Transport can damage a fighter/bomber but a Fighter/Bomber can always beat a Trader's Transport ship. LVL 10 shields with some LVL9/10 weapons and the trader is dead. NPC's are nothing, and if you actualy pirate between tradelanes like most pirates then u very rarely have to worry about NPC's. Noone is asking for an Essay, but saying "Give me 2 million or Die!" isn't RollPlaying, its just a Easy way to make 2 million without having to get off your a*s. Asking for cargo would be Rollplay as its what real pirates would ask for.
Pirates have ALOT of room to operate, You obvacly can't go near lawful bases but u can happily sit between trade lanes knocking them down and pirating. Traders use tradelanes so if you sit in say California u can EASILY attack transports without any NPC's ever bothering you.


With my Train i can only use bats 2 times to regain full shield, a Fighter can take down my shields within about 5 seconds, so thats about 15 seconds of shield, it shouldn't then take a long time to take my hull down. In that time iv say knocked your shields down low, as i can't easily turn to hit you you would get alot more shots off at me (If i go into Turret mode im a sitting duct and aiming is worse). So its not hard to kill a transport.
Its not difficult.
Well trading is less fun, as you mostly are just stairing at the screen while your ship autopilots to the next tradelane/jumpgate. So i assume quite a few would pirate insted to make money rather than trade. Tho thats just a guess.
Noone deletes a character when they die, so what you said there is pointless. Pirates RPing properly and asking for cargo is far different to deleting a character.
I can see you never read previous posts. Im not complaining about something i don't like. Im saying that pirates don't RP properly. If you want to do the "2 million or die!" then go ahead, all im stating is that it isn't RP to ask a driver of a transport for 2 million when in RP the driver would NEVER make 2 million. I also have a pirate account, so i do know both sides of the coin.
I keep hearing people state that its "not about the money", yet i also don't seem to hear the same people RPing for cargo. But insted defending there "right" to ask for 2 million or a persons life.

First off, it's all circumstantial. I would love for a trader to try and negotiate, but if a pirate refused, don't be surprised. It depends on what is going on to dictate whether or not a pirate should accept or reject a negotiation. A trader should always try and negotiate, though, because the pirate has guns, and he wants to live.

Second off, NPC's collect when you disable a lane. The only place I've ever seen them not collect is the Planet Stuttgart --> NB JG Trade Lane because of the LWB NPCs that fly in circles around it. If you pirate in Kusari or Rheinland, the NPCs do hurt, and they add a lot of pressure.

Third off, What would a pirate do with most of the commodities that are in Freelancer? What would I, as a Farmer's Alliance Pilot, do with Diamonds and Niobium? I'm trying to stop the flow of those things into Kusari, not sell it myself! What would me, as an LWB, need Engine Components or Beryllium for? We don't have a shipyard, so why would I need it? Who caries food, water, oxygen, or light arms around for no reason? No one, that's who, and I don't need or want the stuff they do carry around, so I'll go ahead and either take money, or blow your stuff up. If I took it, then Id have to sell it, and I'd much rather just take your money than take something I'd have to sell.

Fourth off, five seconds for your shield? Are you mistaking fighters for bombers or something? In a fighter it takes more than 35 seconds to destroy an advanced transports shields even with shield busters. Bombers are a different story. Bombers can easily destroy almost any transport without amazing piloting skills or connection. A fighter, though, doesn't have the luxury of a torpedo or mini razor, so they have to duke it out with nasty transport turrets. Also, try turret mode again. Fighters and bombers can outmaneuver you easily, but they can't outmaneuver an enemy that isn't moving or is moving in a straight line that can shoot in any direction.

Fifth off, if your trader gets destroyed, he should really either die or be seriously injured. Same thing goes for a pirate, except for the fact that he has an escape pod, which a trader would be lacking since he would sit in the Bridge of his transport, seeing as how the ships are so big that they'd need to be piloted by at least 2 people. Pirates have the luxury of escape pods because they have small classes of ships, traders don't because they have large ships that can't eject an entire Bridge. Thusly, if your trader gets destroyed, he's probably dead or seriously hurt in RP, and a new character would be in order.

Sixth off, the money system of freelancer is obviously inflated. Never would a bandit in real life ask for two million US dollars from a simple trucker. This is a different money system. If it were US dollars as the currency, then two million would be outrageous, but since it's fake "credits," it's completely reasonable because a trader makes over that in a single run.

Seventh off, Pirating is more time consuming and unreliable as a money source than trading. When you trade, you know you make so much money in each leg of a run, but when pirating, you have no clue if someone will pay or whether or not someone is even there to pirate. Trading you always make money. Pirating you always make enemies.

Eighth off, we do have a right to ask for someone's money or their life. It's called mugging. Think of a lone fighter as mugging you rather than pirating you. Pirating would be something a pirate transport does.

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[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.