That was a little to abstract for Enny's liking, but having some around-theological conversation is not too bad. Of course, that wasn't her field and monk who studied things, in theory, should be doing it better than her.
— I did not quite make a claim that gunboats are alive, but they a product of something that comes as natural. In our case, we concluded that it's the human mind. Some things are made for violence and ignoring that is just weird. If I were to shot you right here, you would attempt to defend yourself, which is the violence. And people always justify violence with self-defense in one way or another. It's not possible to draw the line where it's legit self-defense or not. And if you won't even defend yourself, then I would find it much more weird, but interesting at the same time.