// Well appears to have become an ooc thread so ...
Quote:As for BH's... I think the LSF have a problem with what was it... 4 Battlecruisers OPENING Fire and killing Liberty Lawfuls?
Yes, but you might remember the BH fighter craft who helped LSF deal with a ridiculous Order attack on West Point yesterday and the cordial relations developing between some of us and those who protect and serve. But then you weren't there. It's best to have all the facts and with us all having different time zones, no one person is ever going to know the whole story.
Those 4 BH BC players were banned/sanctioned for oorp killing if my memory serves me well. And some BH factions put bounties on them for acting like twerps to make sure their last days on the server were miserable and that they knew how we felt about them. You don't see the whole faction diplomacy status being changed because of the rule breaking and sanctionable actions of one or two individuals, now do you? If that was the case then if some oorp LSF id carrying guy attacked, e.g., the LN, then there would be an outright war between both groups and the faction status would change on a daily basis. That is not a compelling reason from a RP point of view.
I think...
1. The Law needs to be clarified
2. We should come to an arrangement whereby large BH ships might be permitted to pass through but only under conditions as laid down by law as quoted above with an additional one - at a request for help by liberty lawful factions. The RP justification is simple and plausible but the BHG should not be regarded as a foreign power: you could determine that the BH vessels cause pollution, or clog up the trade lanes (like a prohibition on heavy traffic in city centres) or Liberty is so crowded that Order spies might try to scan the BH vessels and use that intel against them in the war in the Nomad systems.
3. BHers that do and are trying to RP well shouldn't be subjected to hostilities based on flimsy oorp decisions (like "there are too many BH BC's in the game; BHer just wanna PvP; they think they're the police") This is tarring everyone with the same brush and is, simply put, unfair. The BHG has good relations with Liberty and its forces in RP. People who oorp are doing exactly that - stepping outside the agreed parameters of the game. It's like punching someone during a chess game.
4. People in BH capships need to be aware of the proposed id changes which will see anything bigger than a GB moved outside the House systems.
5. This be settled amicably as we are all playing a game together. Chill out. Sort things out in RP or in PM but watch your tone. Aggression solves nothing.