2020 Mining Overhaul, Phase 1: Price and Sellpoint Adjustments

[Karlotta]

I'm going to address a few points that were raised here (some by multiple people) without direct quotes because I have the feeling that as always, writing here will be a total waste of time because you already did what you did before having the "discussion". So forgive me for paraphrasing out of "laziness".

"We cant reduce the number of routes without reducing sell points nor can we focus routes the way we want without making system changes."

Then make those system changes already. Jump Overhaul

All it takes is to remove/reroute some jump holes. How many more years and personell changes is it going to take for devs to accept that this is necessary? Doing this would have been both easier and less detrimental to existing rp/gameplay than removing and rebalancing multiple sell points.

"We want to move sell points (which we think corresponds to activity/interactions) away from factions and their systems, and into houses"

Most of the activity (time spent) with an ore does not happen when selling it, but along the way and in the mining field. Yet some mining fields are still scattered across remote locations like Bering, Sigma 59 and gallia, (jeeze I wonder whose factions benefit from that). It would be better to move what ever kind of junk is mined in Bering to about 10k from Rochester with a possibility to build a junker pob attached to Rochester, if player interactions is really what you want to create.

Having a sell point 1 system away from a busy route is less harmful to interactions than making such a route lead through 3-4 remote laneless systems, where traders can just make a 180 as soon as they have a red on scanner.

If by "moving away sell points from factions" you mean stop faction from monopolizing certain ores, having 1 or 2 houses monopolize ore sales achieves the opposite.

"Reducing sell points focuses activity onto the remaining sell point"

What you also do by reducing the number of sell points, is take away trade options to places that are on or near highways. A high number of trade options is good for gameplay as long as they lead along the same busy routes because they leave people more options to do what they want to do.

For example, people who want to recruit noobs for their faction by collaborating with them in mining will want to have something to ship to and from Liberty to where ever their faction resides.

In another example, people that ship stuff to their pob will want good return trade routes to various places (goes for other commodities too, not just ore).

All this is a reason to focus people along the same routes, not to one specific sell points, as long as the sell points dont really stray from those routes much.

"If you cant do what you want with your faction just play another faction"

Playing a faction you like is more fun than playing a faction that you dont like playing. It's basically telling people to have less fun in disco, and is just as dumb as "love it or leave it". Interaction is not enhanced or made more frequent by telling people how to play.

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