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Offline LaWey
06-01-2020, 09:55 AM,
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Can you guys try to apply your experience with sieges and PVP in proposals about gameplay-mechanics improvement?
It is of course very amusing to see rare Jeuge serious mode on, but can we use this thread, not as Enclave factions feedback?

So let's speak about siege time setting. If we speak about the mechanic of it, the first comparison which rises to minds - EVE citadels.
So how it works?
Citadel depends on size, have several hours in a week, during which it can be sieged. Siege going in 3 stages, defence on any means drop of stage counter. Lose of 3rd defence means base go boom.

What main gameplay conceptions we see there?
  • Elementary act of siege short, but have multiple stages.
  • The owner should set time when his base can be sieged. Time depends on size and sector safety.

So how we can achieve this crap in freelancer?

1) Specialised siege weapon, which success of usage determined by control of space.
I think it should be big, ammo-based (for economic purposes) gun. Missiles, unfortunately, can be countered without achieving space superiority. Should be BS, BCr and cruisers variants. It should deal dmg to POBs only.
2) The owner should be able to set time window in UTC when the base will be vulnerable (like 2-4 hours long period in a day).
During this vulnerability period, the base shouldn't repair at all and should suck all intended damage from a specialised weapon.
3) The base should have 2-3 step by step sieged phases before die, and be able to repair itself if one phase failed.
If we take 3 steps, siegers should be able to deal no more than 2/4 damage per vulnerability time. The base should repair 1/4 for the time between sieging. So if siegers not fail, they will kill it in the last phase.

The main problem with it - adjustments of plugin required. Without forcing siege gameplay in short (2-3 hours max) stages, we will have cancer, whatever repair rates or economic behind it we will set.

Current mechanic absolutely not based on gameplay. Current mechanic work around "WHOSE DESIRE TO PLAY WILL BE BROKEN FIRST".
Arguments about losing accepting can be applied to siegers as well, not everybody of them stops siege after a successful defence, but continue it till POB destruction. Both sides want to win, and if attackers have gameplay determined finish of siege (base dies), defenders have no in-gameplay end of it. This is why only real defence tactic - gank attackers as deep as possible to break their will to play.

This is absolutely bland, terrible and player-hating approach to gameplay. No ruling, no rates changes will fix this shit. It should be either fixed or removed.
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Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-14-2018, 04:36 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by LaWey - 03-14-2018, 05:00 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Death.RunningVerminator - 03-14-2018, 05:57 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-14-2018, 06:26 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by LaWey - 03-14-2018, 06:14 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Paddy. - 03-15-2018, 12:34 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by MotokoSusu - 03-15-2018, 01:36 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Paddy. - 03-15-2018, 02:44 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by The.Outlaw.Star - 03-15-2018, 04:15 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Festus McBoyle - 03-15-2018, 07:32 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by ronillon - 03-15-2018, 01:58 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-15-2018, 04:13 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by ronillon - 03-15-2018, 04:51 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-15-2018, 05:55 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by ronillon - 03-15-2018, 06:25 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-15-2018, 06:49 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by ronillon - 03-15-2018, 07:28 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-16-2018, 01:47 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by LaWey - 03-15-2018, 02:22 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-15-2018, 02:50 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Thyrzul - 03-15-2018, 03:00 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by LaWey - 03-15-2018, 03:40 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-15-2018, 03:49 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Thyrzul - 03-15-2018, 04:08 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-15-2018, 05:52 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Thyrzul - 03-16-2018, 12:20 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-16-2018, 03:15 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Thyrzul - 03-16-2018, 04:05 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Laura C. - 03-17-2018, 12:49 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Thyrzul - 03-17-2018, 02:18 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by ronillon - 03-17-2018, 03:16 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by LaWey - 03-15-2018, 07:22 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-16-2018, 01:35 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by LaWey - 03-16-2018, 03:14 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-16-2018, 12:25 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by LaWey - 03-16-2018, 01:48 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-16-2018, 03:54 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-16-2018, 06:25 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Thyrzul - 03-16-2018, 07:14 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by LaWey - 03-16-2018, 07:43 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by SnakThree - 03-17-2018, 04:21 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by OldMiner - 03-17-2018, 04:52 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by SnakThree - 03-17-2018, 05:02 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by OldMiner - 03-17-2018, 06:33 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-18-2018, 04:42 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Thyrzul - 03-18-2018, 05:14 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Festus McBoyle - 03-19-2018, 10:55 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-19-2018, 05:23 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by OrignlGaminGeneration (OGG) - 03-19-2018, 08:01 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by OrignlGaminGeneration (OGG) - 03-19-2018, 09:08 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Laura C. - 03-19-2018, 10:38 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by OrignlGaminGeneration (OGG) - 03-19-2018, 05:34 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Jack_Henderson - 03-19-2018, 04:57 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Jack_Henderson - 03-19-2018, 05:47 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by OrignlGaminGeneration (OGG) - 03-19-2018, 06:35 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Laura C. - 03-19-2018, 10:00 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by ronillon - 03-20-2018, 11:49 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Laura C. - 03-20-2018, 12:35 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Darkseid667 - 04-08-2018, 01:38 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Thyrzul - 03-19-2018, 06:40 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Festus McBoyle - 03-19-2018, 07:08 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Thyrzul - 03-19-2018, 07:33 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-20-2018, 12:11 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by NOVA-5 - 03-19-2018, 08:18 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Ayman - 03-20-2018, 11:56 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by ronillon - 03-20-2018, 12:04 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 03-20-2018, 12:22 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Laura C. - 04-08-2018, 01:58 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 04-09-2018, 12:06 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 07-02-2018, 11:07 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by ~BoS~Rengo - 06-23-2019, 04:16 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Dino - 06-23-2019, 04:24 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by ~BoS~Rengo - 06-24-2019, 06:44 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Skorak - 06-24-2019, 06:48 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Axel Torvals - 06-24-2019, 08:19 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by St.Denis - 06-24-2019, 08:22 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 06-24-2019, 07:10 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by St.Denis - 06-24-2019, 08:51 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 06-29-2019, 05:19 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by ~BoS~Rengo - 06-24-2019, 08:36 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by ~BoS~Rengo - 06-25-2019, 06:56 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 01-09-2020, 06:20 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Wesker - 01-09-2020, 06:35 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 01-09-2020, 06:40 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Loken - 01-09-2020, 06:39 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 01-09-2020, 06:42 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Binski - 01-09-2020, 09:13 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by verzilli - 04-24-2020, 04:41 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Skorak - 04-24-2020, 04:43 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by kerfy - 04-24-2020, 06:30 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Jayce - 04-24-2020, 06:35 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sniper - 05-31-2020, 12:25 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by jammi - 05-31-2020, 12:29 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 05-31-2020, 12:21 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Paddy. - 05-31-2020, 01:12 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 05-31-2020, 01:21 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Paddy. - 05-31-2020, 01:28 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Xenon - 05-31-2020, 01:01 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Paddy. - 05-31-2020, 01:10 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Shiki - 05-31-2020, 01:36 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Paddy. - 05-31-2020, 01:59 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 05-31-2020, 02:16 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Reacher - 05-31-2020, 02:00 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Shiki - 05-31-2020, 02:03 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sava - 05-31-2020, 03:27 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by LaWey - 05-31-2020, 06:06 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by darkwind - 05-31-2020, 08:09 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by LaWey - 05-31-2020, 09:29 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by darkwind - 05-31-2020, 09:40 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Lonely_Ghost - 05-31-2020, 09:47 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by darkwind - 05-31-2020, 09:52 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by LaWey - 05-31-2020, 10:16 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by SwiftWing - 05-31-2020, 04:34 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Mephistoles - 05-31-2020, 06:38 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sniper - 05-31-2020, 11:24 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by LuckyOne - 05-31-2020, 09:22 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Mick - 05-31-2020, 11:35 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Groshyr - 05-31-2020, 11:54 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sniper - 05-31-2020, 11:58 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Hokan - 06-01-2020, 12:17 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Paddy. - 06-01-2020, 12:53 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by LaWey - 06-01-2020, 01:44 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Xenon - 06-01-2020, 01:21 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Markam - 06-01-2020, 02:38 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Jeuge - 06-01-2020, 02:47 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sniper - 06-01-2020, 03:03 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Jeuge - 06-01-2020, 03:28 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sniper - 06-01-2020, 03:53 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Jeuge - 06-01-2020, 04:09 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sniper - 06-01-2020, 04:55 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by SlappyTheRoach - 06-01-2020, 03:44 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Grumblesaur - 06-01-2020, 03:49 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Grumblesaur - 06-01-2020, 03:58 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by SlappyTheRoach - 06-01-2020, 04:09 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Grumblesaur - 06-01-2020, 04:57 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sniper - 06-01-2020, 05:13 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Grumblesaur - 06-01-2020, 05:22 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sniper - 06-01-2020, 05:49 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Grumblesaur - 06-01-2020, 06:02 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Monsieur Baguette - 06-01-2020, 06:40 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Markam - 06-01-2020, 06:51 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sniper - 06-01-2020, 07:21 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Grumblesaur - 06-01-2020, 07:25 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Monsieur Baguette - 06-01-2020, 08:14 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Darkseid667 - 06-01-2020, 06:14 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Markam - 06-01-2020, 05:09 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Jeuge - 06-01-2020, 05:36 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Jeuge - 06-01-2020, 05:45 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Shiki - 06-01-2020, 05:52 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sniper - 06-01-2020, 06:11 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Grumblesaur - 06-01-2020, 06:16 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by SlappyTheRoach - 06-01-2020, 06:20 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sniper - 06-01-2020, 06:25 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Grumblesaur - 06-01-2020, 06:28 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by SlappyTheRoach - 06-01-2020, 06:29 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Markam - 06-01-2020, 06:17 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Shiki - 06-01-2020, 06:25 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Markam - 06-01-2020, 06:38 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by SlappyTheRoach - 06-01-2020, 06:15 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sniper - 06-01-2020, 06:34 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Grumblesaur - 06-01-2020, 06:36 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by SlappyTheRoach - 06-01-2020, 07:02 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Reddy - 06-01-2020, 06:16 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by L e o n - 06-01-2020, 06:31 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Reddy - 06-01-2020, 06:36 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Grumblesaur - 06-01-2020, 06:38 AM
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RE: Player Owned Bases - by Grumblesaur - 06-01-2020, 06:46 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Monsieur Baguette - 06-01-2020, 06:52 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by WesternPeregrine - 06-01-2020, 07:37 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Shiki - 06-01-2020, 06:40 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Shiki - 06-01-2020, 06:47 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Egon Bigmemes - 06-01-2020, 06:57 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Busy Miner - 06-02-2020, 06:18 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Hubjump - 06-01-2020, 06:57 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by SlappyTheRoach - 06-01-2020, 07:05 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Hubjump - 06-01-2020, 07:23 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by SlappyTheRoach - 06-01-2020, 07:32 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Hubjump - 06-01-2020, 07:28 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Grumblesaur - 06-01-2020, 07:33 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Hubjump - 06-01-2020, 07:33 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by SlappyTheRoach - 06-01-2020, 07:38 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Hubjump - 06-01-2020, 07:37 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Grumblesaur - 06-01-2020, 07:42 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by LaWey - 06-01-2020, 09:55 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Mick - 06-01-2020, 10:23 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Paddy. - 06-01-2020, 11:11 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Jeuge - 06-01-2020, 12:04 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 06-01-2020, 01:33 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Jeuge - 06-01-2020, 02:59 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sniper - 06-02-2020, 03:32 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by St.Denis - 06-01-2020, 01:30 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Lucas - 06-01-2020, 11:06 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Sava - 06-01-2020, 11:26 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Groshyr - 06-01-2020, 11:16 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Mick - 06-01-2020, 11:47 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Karlotta - 06-02-2020, 02:55 AM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Hubjump - 06-02-2020, 02:40 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Thyrzul - 06-02-2020, 03:10 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Thyrzul - 06-02-2020, 05:00 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by St.Denis - 06-02-2020, 08:50 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by SwiftWing - 06-02-2020, 04:28 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Reddy - 06-02-2020, 05:05 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by SwiftWing - 06-02-2020, 06:08 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Its Raisu - 06-02-2020, 09:41 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Thyrzul - 06-02-2020, 11:02 PM
RE: Player Owned Bases - by Grumblesaur - 06-03-2020, 06:11 AM

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