(06-05-2020, 06:06 PM)darkwind Wrote: Yes, while operating house space vessels out of house limits are always cringy when meeting some other players. It is possible to get out of house without been seen by anyone, doing stuff with NPC, and returning back without being seen by anyone again.
So you agree that it doesn't look good, we're on the same page there at least. But similarly, just because someone doesn't see something bad happen, it doesn't mean it's justified (like if someone breaks their ID but it doesn't get reported).
(06-05-2020, 06:06 PM)darkwind Wrote: That's with recently raised from ashes PvE stuff against NPC is quite in use, and that prevention would make harder usage of the vessel for me which I would prefer stationed and returned to house space after each turn.
Perhaps some other solution could be made though, like,
"Can not dock outside of its ZoI"? That would create fewer problems for all.
No additional ridiculous ooRP preventions.
Forbidden docking outside the house is actually quite understandable inRP for such vessels.
Why introduce a new type of ID line when there's already precedent for a standardized type of ID line in the form of "Cannot bring capitals outside of ZoI". If you're going to restrict docking, there's not really any strong reasons not to just default to the aforementioned line, especially if it already exists on two IDs.
(06-05-2020, 06:06 PM)darkwind Wrote: No need for that should be though. Aren't players capable to deal with such situations on their own
Instead of creating more ridiculous preventions, making more difficult their choices and freedom?
I saw freely going Corsair Battleship with under quasi lawful ID. Yes it was ridiculous, but it gives people freedom.
Because this "freedom" comes at the expense of local factions that would benefit from players making permanent ships and IDs of those factions, rather than bringing a weekly random House cap to vacation there for the purpose of doing [whatever] and being a general nuisance whilst contributing little to the region long-term before returning home to whatever House it came from. The example you mentioned absolutely does look ridiculous, I don't even know why you'd mention it when it discredits the point you're trying to make.
(06-05-2020, 06:06 PM)darkwind Wrote: If you want everything being equally *****. Forbid snubs at the same level as capital vessels. Stop having capitals discriminated. You were already given another idiocy with Vandals being erased, which brings new problems because they disappeared, which would not be here if they were not removed.
This is nothing about discriminating capital ships. As I have said, there are already standardized ID lines, and using those is the best thing. Furthermore, snubs leaving ZoI can at least make more roleplay sense and in my experience players on such ships doing that kind of thing tend to be more RP orientated anyway. But otherwise, this is really not some attack on capital ship players (which is a ridiculous insinuation anyway), especially when such ships can't do anything outside of their ZoI anyway.