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Offline Grumblesaur
06-11-2020, 11:16 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-11-2020, 11:17 PM by Grumblesaur.)
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(06-11-2020, 10:48 PM)Archaetherial Wrote: Again, you are presuming too much and rolling out with unfounded accusations and insults, Grumblesaur.

If this is how you conduct discussions then I am afraid I will have to end this one soon, because I will not stand for that much longer.

Show some respect.

I am not going to show you any respect if you continue to ignore my argument, twist it to suit your purposes, and clutch your pearls the second I point that out.

(06-11-2020, 10:48 PM)Archaetherial Wrote: You are yet again mistaken. I pointed out your assumption is wrong, because it was wrong. I do not think law enforcement should be omnipresent. They should however maintain heavy presence in certain central areas and those are the areas I was talking about.

Perhaps I should clarify what I mean. Within lawfully controlled zones, the law enforcement patrols are omnipresent, or effectively so. That is, patrols will always spawn there and always at the strength (which is quite high) that they are programmed to. Sometimes NPC patrols don't spawn, sometimes they do. Part of this is unavoidable due to the way the engine works. But when they are present, strong as they are, they dominate the zone, taking a responsibility that I think players should have, which is defense and patrol of planets, stations, and their environs.

Hence I mean for there to be weaker NPCs, and perhaps with patrol zones that are staggered in such a way that they aren't all heavily concentrated in one zone (usually the docking ring side of the planet). Contrary to my own complaints of omnipresence, this would put them in more places, but also reduce their power projection/area denial because their firepower is distributed over a wider area, making any one particular spot less deadly, but still a threat.

Weaker NPCs in these major points of interest would also mean that accidental aggro, either from misfired ordnance or from unfortunate faction empathies, would be less likely to blast unsuspecting lawful or neutral players, in addition to giving unlawful players a little more room to conduct raids.

(06-11-2020, 10:48 PM)Archaetherial Wrote: I will correct myself and clarify that you do not want to make it completely equal, but to decrease the disparity.

It was not an attemp at strawmanning your entire argument, but an extrapolation and maybe certain oversimplification of your stance. I stand corrected.

What difference does it make?

I agree with that disparity and believe it is logical, valid and should remain.

Unlawfuls should have a hard time in central, heavy traffic areas of House space. They should be harrassed by NPCs.

I have no problem with an asymmetry between lawfuls and unlawfuls; I just think the current degree of asymmetry is unnecessarily high, and that nerfing some NPCs would be a way to reduce it.

(06-11-2020, 10:48 PM)Archaetherial Wrote: Also, what I omitted in my previous post despite you finishing with it and emboldening it. I think NPCs should serve precisely that reason to fill out that power vacuum that you claim they don't have to fill.

And last, but not least, why are you treating this discussion like a fight and attempt to undermine people with different opinions than your own?

Because, by experience, I have come to expect as much from this community. This doesn't mean it's the right thing to do, but it often feels as if a little tenacity and bite is necessary to call attention to anything at all, as a verbose proposal is so often met with disdain and mockery, a short suggestion is dismissed out of hand, and a friendly crowd-pleaser argument will be picked apart for naivete, factual or otherwise.

If I come across as hostile, it's because I'm frustrated with a tendency of the community at large to pass over complexity and nuance. I don't particularly like this rhetoric myself, but it seems almost necessary at times.

(06-11-2020, 10:48 PM)Archaetherial Wrote: You present certain views and I present others. I'm not making pitiful attempts at undermining the logic of your arguments and forcing accusations of strawmanning or hypocrisy like you are trying to do. I simply take note of your opinions, but disagree.
Calling my style of discourse "pitiful", which is a word that rarely ever has positive connotations, is a poor choice as you claim to be calm and uninflammatory. Granted, I don't know whether your native language is English, so perhaps some of your mannerisms are cultural or personal idiosyncracies which are at odds with the conventions of dialogue as I am familiar with them.

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Too much NPCs - by Lambda 4 - 06-11-2020, 03:40 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Skorak - 06-11-2020, 03:42 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Lambda 4 - 06-11-2020, 04:01 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Skorak - 06-11-2020, 04:03 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Thunderer - 06-11-2020, 04:03 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Skorak - 06-11-2020, 04:06 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Lemon - 06-11-2020, 04:07 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Thunderer - 06-11-2020, 04:07 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Lythrilux - 06-11-2020, 04:07 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Its Raisu - 06-11-2020, 09:43 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Lambda 4 - 06-11-2020, 04:11 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Skorak - 06-11-2020, 04:19 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Erremnart - 06-11-2020, 04:23 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Venkman - 06-11-2020, 04:30 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Archaetherial - 06-11-2020, 04:45 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Shryke - 06-11-2020, 06:11 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Busy Miner - 06-12-2020, 06:38 AM
RE: Too much NPCs - by darkwind - 06-12-2020, 06:46 AM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Busy Miner - 06-12-2020, 06:49 AM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Binski - 06-12-2020, 04:28 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Shryke - 06-12-2020, 02:58 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by pillow - 06-11-2020, 04:46 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Grumblesaur - 06-11-2020, 05:39 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Save My Soul - 06-11-2020, 04:50 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Venkman - 06-11-2020, 04:57 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by darkwind - 06-11-2020, 06:14 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by VinitS - 06-11-2020, 07:17 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Save My Soul - 06-11-2020, 09:20 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by RedEclipse - 06-11-2020, 04:55 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Erremnart - 06-11-2020, 05:02 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by LuckyOne - 06-11-2020, 05:02 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Connor - 06-11-2020, 05:05 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by LuckyOne - 06-11-2020, 05:19 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Lemon - 06-11-2020, 05:42 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Pepe - 06-11-2020, 05:54 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Lambda 4 - 06-11-2020, 06:19 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by darkwind - 06-11-2020, 06:21 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Genocide Jill - 06-11-2020, 06:22 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Lambda 4 - 06-11-2020, 06:29 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by darkwind - 06-11-2020, 06:35 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Erremnart - 06-11-2020, 06:35 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Nepotu - 06-11-2020, 06:37 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Archaetherial - 06-11-2020, 07:22 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Grumblesaur - 06-11-2020, 07:30 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by LuckyOne - 06-11-2020, 07:28 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Lythrilux - 06-11-2020, 07:29 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Archaetherial - 06-11-2020, 07:49 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Grumblesaur - 06-11-2020, 07:59 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Erremnart - 06-11-2020, 08:12 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Alex. - 06-11-2020, 08:14 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Skorak - 06-11-2020, 08:15 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Alex. - 06-11-2020, 08:18 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Archaetherial - 06-11-2020, 08:21 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Grumblesaur - 06-11-2020, 09:51 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by darkwind - 06-11-2020, 10:02 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Binski - 06-11-2020, 10:19 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by AureumSaber - 06-11-2020, 10:30 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Binski - 06-11-2020, 10:56 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Lambda 4 - 06-11-2020, 08:34 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Binski - 06-11-2020, 08:50 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Skorak - 06-11-2020, 08:37 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Jayenbee - 06-11-2020, 08:41 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Erremnart - 06-11-2020, 08:48 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Alex. - 06-11-2020, 09:55 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Grumblesaur - 06-11-2020, 09:58 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Ramke - 06-11-2020, 09:59 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by darkwind - 06-11-2020, 10:05 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Ramke - 06-11-2020, 10:07 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Archaetherial - 06-11-2020, 10:12 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Grumblesaur - 06-11-2020, 10:14 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by LuckyOne - 06-11-2020, 10:16 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Grumblesaur - 06-11-2020, 10:27 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Kazinsal - 06-11-2020, 10:35 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Lemon - 06-12-2020, 08:36 AM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Hemlocke - 06-11-2020, 10:40 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by LuckyOne - 06-11-2020, 10:44 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Grumblesaur - 06-11-2020, 10:51 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Archaetherial - 06-11-2020, 10:48 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Grumblesaur - 06-11-2020, 11:16 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Alex. - 06-11-2020, 10:59 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by sajuuk111 - 06-11-2020, 11:26 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Linerges - 06-12-2020, 12:50 AM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Hemlocke - 06-12-2020, 03:21 AM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Hubjump - 06-12-2020, 04:43 AM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Swallow - 06-12-2020, 05:07 AM
RE: Too much NPCs - by darkwind - 06-12-2020, 05:14 AM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Ramke - 06-12-2020, 07:37 AM
RE: Too much NPCs - by darkwind - 06-12-2020, 09:41 AM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Swallow - 06-12-2020, 05:19 AM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Archaetherial - 06-12-2020, 02:48 PM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Alex. - 06-13-2020, 12:39 AM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Mick - 06-13-2020, 02:26 AM
RE: Too much NPCs - by Lonely_Ghost - 06-13-2020, 03:02 PM

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