(06-15-2020, 01:41 PM)Relation-Ship Wrote: It still takes ***** of hours and hashtag nolife for a newcomer to make money for shiny stuff they want
Believe me
My friends haven't seen me much at all last 2 months :]
Not sure what inflated economy you're talking about - it must have been awful for new guys before if it was worse
Okay, let's do some math then.
Iirc the Sunburst is the starter ship, if not for every restart, then for at least one, beginner, miner, house civilian, idk which. In case neither, it's still just $300k, cheapest in its category. Rolling on normal 2.5 CSU routes with its 540 cargo means $1350 C/s, $4.86m C/h, so its price comes back in roughly 16 minutes, rest is profit you can spend on equipment and guns, later on bigger ships. Armor is pretty standard equipment, costs $5.25m, takes 65 minutes of trading, and when mounted it reduces profit to $4.68m C/h.
Mammoth costs $10.1m, requiring 2 hours 10 minutes of trading, increases your hold to 2200, your profit to $19.8m C/h, returns its cost in just a bit over 30 minutes. With your armor upgrade mounted the profit is still $19.62m C/h.
Serenity costs $39.1m, requiring 2 hours of trading, increases your cargo hold to 3600, your profit to $32.4m C/h, returns its cost in 80 minutes. The more hardcores go for a CAU8 (4.0x) armor for transports, but I'd say for casuals a HAU4 (3.0x) would do just fine, that one costs $48m, takes 1.5 hours of trading, and when mounted it reduces profit to $30.87m C/h.
Bison costs 108.6m, requiring 3.5 hours of trading, increases your cargo hold to 4300, your profit to 38.7m C/h, returns its cost in 2.8 hours. Mounting HAU4 reduces profit to 37.17m C/h.
Mastodon costs 150.6m, requiring 4 hours of trading, increases your cargo hold to 5000, your profit to 45m C/h, returns its cost in less than 3.5 hours. Mounting HAU4 reduces profit to 43.47 C/h.
From start to flying an 5ker in 13.25 hours, implying the purchase of only the ships and the armor, no hostile encounters on the way, but also that you aren't hauling contraband, ore, or event cargo, nor are taking a loan. Skipping the Bison step could even cut the time down to 11 hours 38 minutes. Taking a $215m loan can instantly get you a HAU4 Mastodon with $16.4m extra cash for other equipment, and can return the loan in 5 hours with normal trading, less than 2.5 hours with the $100m C/h profits people keep mentioning regarding ore trading.
So I've no clue what you've been doing for 2 months, but it doesn't really sound like "hashtag nolife", when you can max your profits with actual nolife trading in a day or two.
Well - just delete all characters and start from sunburst like I did if it's that easy
Or just ask anyone else who started out recently - the comments in here speak for themselves I think
Btw one heavy BS with MK8, JD, cloak costs 2.3 billion
That's without survey module and sci data guns. That's a lot of hours for someone starting out from sunburst. Hours of PURE GRINDING WITHOUT STOPPING FOR ROLEPLAY that get damn boring at times.
And I got a lot of help from e.g. Darky in convoys, an admin helping with coords for free etc. other people might not get that.
Nerfing gunboats, buffing trading wouldn't break the economy or anything.
