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POB Change Suggestions
Offline puppytaste
09-17-2020, 11:28 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-18-2020, 03:41 AM by puppytaste.)
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Suggestion
Type: Siege approvals by GMs and Rules surrounding participants.
Title: GMs will approve or deny all POB siege requests. Siege participants must actually RP in attacking faction and cannot be characters created for the sole purpose of siege.

Specifics
  • Persons posting in POB attack thread will be subject to a 24 hour review before post is visible and required wait period begins (So it would be a 48hour wait for most bases). Persons wishing to preform a siege will provide a list of players involved in siege. GMs will review basis of intent by attacking party and insure that it is not a group looking to Grief other players. For example, If Faction A wishes to siege POB B, players wishing to participate in said will have some level of activity in the faction that controls the ZOI base is in. GMs will insure that participants (Both attackers and defenders) are not chars created specifically for the siege.

Potential Problems
  • -Extra work for GM team.
    -Extra RP requirements for factions who want to siege.
    -Only factions active members may participate in a siege, thus it is more difficult to create a 'Gank Squad'. (IE: each char involved should have min. 12 hours logged on that ship over the last 90 days.)
    -Fixing some weird ZOI's like Omicron Kappa. (IE: It makes no sense why Gammu Homeworld is in same system as Outworld Zoners 'Home Planet' and Main Shipyard but is also in Corsairs ZOI for example. So who actually controls Kappa ZOI? At the moment its whomever can log the most caps, and the Gammu have little defense against a dozen Corsair dreddys no matter how many log in to defend. We can't have systems where 2 groups actually live there but group 3 from next door can just attack whenever and the other 2 groups can't do anything due to not having big enough ships or other RP reasons that they cannot defend their neighbors against a siege in their own system.)

Example of Effect

A declaration being moderated in this way will help dissuade griefers from attacking POB's with thin RP reasons. Players will have to actually participate the official factions that are making the declaration and have a reasonable amount of activity in said faction. This will help ensure RP is being preformed by all attackers and the siege is not performed by chars created for the singular purpose of attacking a POB. A minor exception to this could be allowing either attackers or defenders to hire a 3rd party as mercenaries to defend/attack base. Merc's would have to follow the same guidelines as attacker/defenders as far as faction activity goes.

Further Discussion

***Please note that when I refer to 'official' faction I really mean that your group is known to the server (IE: on the faction activity page where activity is tracked) but may still use generic ID***

- Groups/ Factions should have a good reason to Siege a POB. I will list a few examples,

- Base was built unlawfully in factions ZOI
- Base refuse's to pay any lawfully required taxes or use fees to controlling faction in their ZOI
- Base will not RP with controlling faction or has conflicting purpose to controlling faction in their ZOI
- Base is used as a hub for groups considered to be unlawful to controlling faction in their ZOI
- Base is derelict or unused and it is a reasonable action by controlling faction in their ZOI
- Nomads are the exception, they will always have a good reason to attack a human installation.

Basically, RP reasons that make sense. Nothing not already in rules.

-Bad reasons to siege a POB

- Greifing for the sake of destroying something of value to another person.
- Siege because you don't like the owner or their personal beliefs that do not have anything to do with the game.
- Siege because you don't feel like the base owner RP's at the same level as yours (IE: New Players that need time and help from the community to develop RP skill set or don't have the best English language skills)
- Siege because the base serves no purpose to you personally but not necessarily other players.
- Siege because the base may have reasonable docking restrictions or other inRP protocols and you find that offensive but are not in anyway illegal (but yet you wont ask for docking rights or even read why the base made that choice in the 1st place. Instead of just assuming and making a declare. Sometimes it makes perfect sense for a base to restrict docking during specific operations such as a core upgrade or when available space for sell-able wares is limited. Not everything is meant as an offense to you personally.)

In essence, I'd like to see POB owners that at least try to add something positive to the community not have to worry about people coming to Grief your hard work because of reasons that had nothing to do with the game or RP. I've seen a few attacks that seem to have stemmed from reasons like this. I would hope that a POB owner creates the base for reasons that benefit all of us. Its just way to easy right now for a group of players to band together, buy some caps make a couple of posts and go blow something up for little real reason other then they can. This dissuades new players and small groups of players from making a vital contribution to the community and economy. Making siege available to only 'official' factions and only allowing players who actually RP that faction on a regular basis to participate will give much needed protection to POB owners making an effort.

I do own a POB. I shed no tears for the many that have been destroyed over the last few months that did not even try to RP and were just there to take up space and be an eyesore. That being said, a few of those POBs were obviously the victim of a situation that had little to do with RP circumstances. They deserve some protection from players who only seek to spam. I really don't intend to offend anyone with that statement, I know the POB's only live to die. But I think as a community we owe each other a bit of common respect and should support those willing to risk so much of their time and resources to add something for all of us to potentially enjoy.
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Messages In This Thread
POB Change Suggestions - by Champ - 06-02-2020, 06:57 AM
Champ's POB Change Suggestions - by Champ - 06-02-2020, 06:59 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Grumblesaur - 06-02-2020, 07:55 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by SwiftWing - 06-02-2020, 04:46 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by LaWey - 06-02-2020, 08:10 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Sava - 06-02-2020, 11:28 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by darkwind - 06-02-2020, 12:28 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by SwiftWing - 06-02-2020, 06:02 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Grumblesaur - 06-03-2020, 06:57 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Sava - 06-03-2020, 12:31 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Champ - 06-03-2020, 09:46 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by E X O D I T E - 06-04-2020, 02:40 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by LuckyOne - 06-06-2020, 10:44 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by jammi - 06-06-2020, 03:50 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by darkwind - 06-06-2020, 04:57 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by LuckyOne - 06-06-2020, 05:38 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by LuckyOne - 06-07-2020, 10:03 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Darkseid667 - 06-15-2020, 05:00 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Binski - 06-17-2020, 09:34 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by darkwind - 06-17-2020, 10:04 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Sniper - 06-18-2020, 12:26 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Grumblesaur - 06-18-2020, 12:58 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Paddy. - 06-18-2020, 02:17 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Busy Miner - 06-25-2020, 02:46 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Groshyr - 06-25-2020, 02:54 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by kerfy - 06-26-2020, 08:56 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by LuckyOne - 06-26-2020, 09:33 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Binski - 06-27-2020, 11:09 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Groshyr - 06-27-2020, 11:37 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Widow - 06-28-2020, 06:11 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Typrop - 06-28-2020, 08:44 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Havok - 07-02-2020, 10:09 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Piombo65 - 07-02-2020, 11:56 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by NoMe - 07-02-2020, 12:11 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by dr lameos - 07-02-2020, 03:46 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Lythrilux - 07-02-2020, 10:56 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Champ - 07-03-2020, 12:17 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Binski - 07-04-2020, 09:41 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Laz - 07-04-2020, 10:56 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by LuckyOne - 07-04-2020, 11:14 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Binski - 07-04-2020, 12:58 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by darkwind - 07-04-2020, 11:28 AM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by LuckyOne - 07-04-2020, 08:07 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by darkwind - 07-08-2020, 08:14 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Piombo65 - 07-08-2020, 08:19 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by Lemon - 09-08-2020, 01:45 PM
RE: POB Change Suggestions - by puppytaste - 09-17-2020, 11:28 PM

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