Since you mentioned my name at the bottom of the OP I may as well give my opinions directly.
(09-26-2020, 06:54 PM)Relation-Ship Wrote: It no longer is a representation of lawful factions in the house, it becomes an arbitrary group of buddies that can vote others out in their own self-interest
When the existing "group of people that receive power" can vote others in and out as they please, and on top of that do their decision-making hidden and in secret, yes they are very likely to turn into a group of buddies serving primarily themselves.
(09-26-2020, 06:54 PM)Relation-Ship Wrote: I propose the solutions A) TAKE AWAY GOVS FROM PLAYERS AND BACK TO STORY DEVS AND GMs
- there would be fairness
- they would make in-lore sense
- their behavior would be coherent with story progression
- big negative: Less frequent posts and updates
What was said above this part of the quote is however not only true for house governments. It's also true for devs and game masters / admins, and they too at times behaved as / were a group of self-serving buddies.
The idea that things will be fair, make in lore sense, and be coherent, if you just replace one such group with another "higher" one which is even more buddy buddy than the first, is kinda naive or wishful thinking.
(09-26-2020, 06:54 PM)Relation-Ship Wrote: B) MAKE OFFICIAL LAWFUL FACTION INCLUSION AUTOMATIC
- This will prevent an arbitrary group of people doing what they want in their circle.
P.S. Suggestions were made like
- discussions and votes should also be publicly viewable by everyone. To prevent government voting be influenced by posts like "ha ha this is gonna screw over x player so bad they will be furious
- include unlawfulls into oorp discussions
etc.
Since house government discussions are almost exclusively oorp and will likely affect lawfuls as well as unlawfuls in the house, there is no reason why unlawfuls shouldnt be brought to the table. I'd even go a step further and say that if a gov decisions affects factions outside of the house, the official factions involved should be invited to oorp discuss their npc faction's interests too.
Accepting only lawful, and only certain lawful factions into votes and discussions, creates or enlargens existing rifts between them and the "outsiders".
People have raised concerns that some factions are too "immature" to be in their leaders club. To that I say that if that's true, they shouldnt have "official status" in the first place. And if they dont want to partake in community "governing" and in working things out, they probably dont really need to be official either.
Disco needs to finally define more clearly what an official faction is, what is expected of them, and what they are expected to NOT do (for example be entirely self serving unwilling to respect the interests of indies or other factions). That would be a much better solution than to add layers and layers of "in group out group" shenanigans with no clear boundaries or guiding principles.
