Governments, OF and [LIA]

[Binski]

cloak away when dry in snub fights

I see they're getting to you. Its no crime to actually try though, and its an RP server, not an arcade server! This is all normal behavior when playing as an intel type.

It no longer is a representation of lawful factions in the house, it becomes an arbitrary group of buddies that can vote others out in their own self-interest

Welcome to Discovery!

I propose the solutions
A) TAKE AWAY GOVS FROM PLAYERS AND BACK TO STORY DEVS AND GMs
- there would be fairness
- they would make in-lore sense
- their behavior would be coherent with story progression
- big negative: Less frequent posts and updates

B) MAKE OFFICIAL LAWFUL FACTION INCLUSION AUTOMATIC
- This will prevent an arbitrary group of people doing what they want in their circle.


P.S. Suggestions were made like
- discussions and votes should also be publicly viewable by everyone. To prevent government voting be influenced by posts like "ha ha this is gonna screw over x player so bad they will be furious
- include unlawfulls into oorp discussions
etc.

EDIT: Credit to @Karlotta for the above suggestions

Devs taking control would take away a great aspect of the RP side of the game. But it does seem to get top heavy rather easy. Some rules regarding this situation would be nice.

I guess the LibGov doesn't want to see LSF ships in Gallia.

So the LIA is independent of LibGov?

I mean, the OFs are led by the Gov or the Gov is led by the OFs ?

Ah I get it now. They want to do what intel guys do but its inconvenient for those in control, that should probably support them. They should be able to go to any house and hang out, especially non allied ones, observe...spy even! Although its still rather sad they control reality by forcing people to not acknowledge things you observe while cloaked. It killed a lot of potential for this game, and intel ID's in general.

All in all, there still isn't enough general pve things to do on the server. Especially for intel ID's, there's nothing to sabotage, no live targets to attack, can't cloak spy, can't make bases to claim territory or extend your range/zoi. Doing anything is frowned upon for some reason. I ran into this last year. This is one of the problems that comes from too much Dev control over story, and not enough of Dev's taking a stance that it is OK to do stuff, even if it incoveniences your opponents! I've rarely seen places that have such a high degree of pier pressure to psychologically accept giving up, or doing less.

Yesterday, on Issoudun, your actions were louder than words. Should you forget – I remind you: [LIA] just ran as soon as Enclave started to log. And it seems this is not the first case of such behaviour from your guys.

Sadly, so far, I had no enjoyable interaction with or against your guys, only endless facepalming. Adding you to LibGov would no harm, I guess, but will not make anything better for the house's government itself

I don't get where the only way to claim enjoyment of the game is for things to always result in the same old thing. Is there anything actually wrong with bugging out? Sounds like more 'it didn't cater to me so wah' logic that is just suppression. If intel ships are out scouting your territory, you log, they withdraw, that's a realistic win. Much of the game is like chess, and its about stance, denying territory/route access. Many situations occur from across systems, people playing cat and mouse, trying to cut each other off, waiting each other out. Or just escaping enemy patrols. Give some time, perhaps they'll come back with more ships and be ready for a fight.

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