Social Survey: Why people are loosing interest to Discovery?

[Lythrilux]

Lyth. You don't get it. You logged once in a year when it's not an event?

I was taking a jab at your silly and humorous timed point about not logging in. I'm not going to trawl back through the screenshots I have from each time I have logged in recent months, there'd be too many and to be frank that would be equally silly.

The point is if you have farmers NOBODY HAS TO SIT AROUND AND WAIT as they are PERMALOGGED. In a good system, without nebulas and sun in the middle and long distances.

Did you not see the point I made where there were literally Nomad farmers logged on and Core was going to go and shoot them just now? You've completely missed that from my post. Go to Zeta, the same activity is there, just less ooRP. There are still missions in Delta but they are just obviously not as high value - that's the point.

Before you screwed Omicrons you could log any time of the day in that system because you always had people permalogged.

There are people farming in Zeta all the time.

Point is - you went completely against the development of server population, and somehow people didn't stop your madness that ruined Omicrons activity. The trend should be to concentrate activity not spread it out. You had all activity in one system. So ***** what. Farmers permalogged.

Extremely subjective. I had heard many opinions that the concentration of almost all sources of Omicron activity being in one place was very bad design. It had been a critque for quite a while since Durandal/Xalrok administration had lazily shoved everything in there against the concerns of others. And from what I can see reception to Zeta was fairly positive.

You could log core 24/7 to bully legal bully them. You could log nomads 24/7 to kill them. And then you could log core+order to kill the Nomads and each other. Who could cleanse ASAP and go all-out because of the massive swarm of ships that came their way.

I think all these factions realise that it becomes a bit of a joke when they focus their activity around ooRP.

Nomads, Core, Order all had farming zones overlapping and great missions with great visibility. Highly profitable Ores were close to Nomad Base. and easily intercepted.

The mission zones were all fairly close to NPC bases and anyone who could read a radar would easily be able to see something coming for them and run. The amount of times I would see something like a Bismark farming Nomads that would slip away by docking on an NPC base were all too frequent - if not that it'd use it's jump drive and jump out to avoid roleplay and interactions. In comparison, I can't argue Zeta is perfect, but the warzone balances that out a bit more.

You didn't take the server population and the nature of Omicrons into account when you made these changes because you don't play the game or listen to feedback of players that do. You killed the one place on the server besides liberty you could log 24/7 and get action. Your "russian Ivan only" is bs too. Unlike you, I logged Core. A lot. And I got my legal asshole RP and long debates in with people virtually every day.

The critical flaw in your reasoning Lemon is to you that Omicron Activity = no-RP caps farming Nomads in weird group, ship and ID combinations when that just isn't true as evident by the recent interactions I have had in the Omicrons, and before the mission system was changed to cause the aforementioned to spike. What discouraged myself and other people from logging was exactly this: the horrendously low quality encounters that just were not worth the time investment like Thunderer describes.

I am reminded that you also used to argue that LNS farming missions in Tau-44 was good.

What's really disappointing for me is how Omicrons nowadays are developing. A slight bright part is that Zeta returnal but even resizing of asteroid belt of the sun(because of shrinked sun corona) wasn't made properly, now floating rocks are appearing till the sun model, which looks corrupt as hell. Delta rework only made Core more happy, as everything was moved in a sphere of the Nauru, even Iridium field, while the rest of the map remained more or less empty. I also thought that guard systems no longer exists, but what are developers and doing with Rho and Lost is quite fall under banner of "guard", also Theta had been grown into a monster full of zoner bases even without a single Corsair base, and now OW with their weird relationship with Corsairs came out of nowhere. Pervious version of Minor was much-much more interesting and beautiful in terms of game design and visual aspect, it fears me that developer have no taste. Anyway, thats my 2 cents, I feel really bad for Omicron rework, as its my favorite place in game.

As for major activity killer in the Omicrons was total removal of Zoner missions on the Freeport 11. That have cut most of thr activity between Zoner and Nomad players there.

Pretty much all your concerns here are being addressed in one way or another. It's just a bit slow to get Omicron changes out the door. Zoner missions are/were sort of returning in some capacity albeit more balanced than before but it has just taken a while.

I decided to strike a midpoint between faithful the old Delta layout and the current system aesthetics when reworking the system (mainly because I thought people would just complain otherwise), and I think I'll just fully re-create the .87 layout in future. Though the biggest issue is that the Iridium field was moved to balance the ridiculous risk created by Nomads from before that made it unviable vs other ores - the problem is players have moved POBs to the edge of that field (something that Systems can't account for) effectively exploting the system changes to pivot their POBs into a better position and it has screwed with things a bit. I don't really know how that can change other than the GMs maybe stepping in. I would disagree that the map is empty and there are actually individually placed solars and other things located throughout the system for players to explore (well, one of them was moved out, you can blame a certain player(s) for that) - if you think the system is empty you haven't tried exploring it properly.

The truth is the Omicron 'rework' has been completely unfinished for months and individual parts of it keep getting pushed back for further patches and other bits of it are put in instead of the whole package. I wanted to phase everything out in one go but welp that just doesn't happen. It's painful because I have seen people decrying the Omicron rework but the truth is they've only seen like 30% of it. I don't want to talk too much out of line but I feel like all these problems are being blamed on me solely when I have been putting all the work but it then gets shelved in place of other things.

The problem is the players aren't logging in

*Gasp* I wonder why...

Recent changes to the Omicrons

Surely this has nothing to do with it. /s

Be honest Lyth, do you even play the game you develop? Whatever the Omicrons were before, people had reasons for logging in to be there. Your changes have taken away whatever reasons those people might have had.

You changed a thing because you did not like it. Different people enjoy different things, when you change something for no other reason than to better suit what you want, the consequence is that what made that place enjoyable for others, is no longer so, and so those people will go somewhere that is more enjoyable than what you created. That is why

players aren't logging in

Roku Omicron Alpha North Edge Worlds 3h58
General_bumi Omicron Alpha North Edge Worlds 3h50
Oohoowhoobhoo Omicron Alpha North Edge Worlds 18m
MNS-Viajero Omicron Beta North Edge Worlds 19m
Marcinko Omicron Delta Nomad Worlds 1h31
(\^/)Helios Omicron Delta Nomad Worlds 3m
RV-Pennybrooke Omicron Iota Nomad Worlds 45m
Vagrant.Melia Omicron Iota Nomad Worlds 37m
Kylan'Kan Omicron Zeta Nomad Worlds 1h30
Jestak|Aoi Omicron Zeta Nomad Worlds 27m
Amar'Utu Omicron Zeta Nomad Worlds 24m
Mor'Kher Omicron Zeta Nomad Worlds 23m
Greater.Light Omicron Zeta Nomad Worlds 20m
Li'in'Da Omicron Zeta Nomad Worlds 19m
Koi'shi Omicron Zeta Nomad Worlds 16m
K'Hara|Pherousa. Omicron Zeta Nomad Worlds 3m

There were also 5 Core ships including myself on this list just a moment ago.

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