Social Survey: Why people are loosing interest to Discovery?

[Giorgio]

Disco isn't efficient enough when it comes to fun per unit of time.

There's just nothing (enjoyable) to do that doesn't involve other players already being logged in. Travel times are still - even after a lot of system culling and shrinking - very long. People here will unironically say "But Haste, that's part of the charm!". Yeah, it was charming in 2008. Nowadays it's just outdated.

Agreed. There are definitely more reasons for the decline in activity than just "new games were released". FL was already old in 2011 when it had 200 players at peak times. Faction activity often went down after some nerfs/downgrades. The most obvious example is when Corsairs and Outcasts completely stopped logging after 4.86 was released, even though they were some of the most active playerbases in .85. Part of it was because their favourite ships were nerfed. Then we also had the Corsair playerbase complaining that the constant Gamma raids were "unrealistilc" and "didn't make much RP sense". When they got Gamma surrounded by buffer systems, the playerbase died out as there was nothing to do. It just makes it harder when a big chunk of the playerbase is asking for measures which would kill activity even further, I still see that even now.

Fun per unit of time wouldn't even be that bad if it wasn't for people acting like idiots/ganking/dropping GBs into snub fights and so on like half the time. I don't even care about ganking but it's too much when the same people that gank others cry a week later after getting ganked themselves. Like, shorter travel distances would help with fun per time but they wouldn't fix everything unfortunately.