(08-01-2021, 10:56 PM)Wesker Wrote: What is keeping you from playing the game?
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I have seen lots of people leave over grudges, I have completely stepped away from anything involving Rheinland again.
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A while ago, I figured maybe the region needed me to step back. I was being vilified over a lot of stuff in the region, but now that I've stepped back I've still seen nothing change in the area at all. Interest there is pretty much kaputt.
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The drama is past us, if everyone really left over Justin, then why aren't people coming back?
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So what is it? Why aren't people coming back?
Allow me to try and partially answer the question for two people I know well who aren't playing right now and who generally don't post in these kinds of threads. I think there are at least 3 more who left for similar reasons, but I don't know them well enough to be speaking for them really. If I remember correctly, people were gloating and cheering that they made those other 3 leave.
The first two have told me as they left / become inactive, "I'm never going to try to do anything in rheinland ever again" and "I'm not building a pob again after what happened to the one I built in rheinland". Both were talking about what I understand to be the latest of your many "kill all pob" sprees that you were talking about with "the region needed me to step back".
But of course, pob werent the only source of their frustration, a lot was also the general attitude parts of the community have towards anyone not part of their in-group, not only in rheinland, but everywhere. And of course you're not the only one doing it either. I can think of two serial-siegers who did the exact same thing between now and then (like you, they proudly gloated about it too), in which 3 of my pobs were also attacked, and the one that I invested the most RP and effort in was destroyed. But I did decide "I'm going to avoid rheinland as well as I can because of wesker" long before the sieges and I recommended one of the mentioned people to not build there, but he did it anyway because he thought he'd make a lot of money mining.
The problem is really not one or three serial siegers though, it's everyone who sieges and just memes "delete all pobs" in every thread that tries to mitigate the drama around pobs, and more broadly the mindset/attitude that lies behind it. For the pob problems, at the end of the day, the fault is with those who shape/keep game mechanics and rules in ways that this keeps happening.
Anyway... my own reasons for not playing in the last 2-3 months are only in a very small part because of the above, and elaborating on them with appropriate detail would take a lot longer. Maybe later.
But I will say that expecting everyone who left for reason X to return the moment reason X is (allegedly) gone is kind of... "optimistic", and trying to pretend that this shows reason X wasnt the real reason really looks like wishful thinking in this context. Not only concerning pobs and sieges, but concerning every single reason someone might not enjoy the mod (rules, lore, learning curve, ganks, sieges, community, staff, boredom).
Disco's decline didnt start last year, in 4.86, with heavy decision, dev vs admin wars, coups, or any time between that. It started during the "peak activity" of 4.85, when certain attitudes and policies became the norm, which disco still hasnt managed to shake off.
