Hogosha in NY

[Blodo]

Yeah--but selling artifacts in Liberty gives real plausibility to one of the reasons Junkers hate Hogosha--its competition (same for their synth marijuana).

This is one of those "happy coincidences" where the mod elements actually reinforce role play. If Junkers are banned and shot by EVERYONE in Kusari then Hogosha are no better or worse than any other Kusari group to Junkers. If Hogosha then don't sell any competing products and never enter any Junker core space, where's the big threat and why all the hatred? Sure Hogosha are already 'criminals" in Kusari at the moment but their sales markets are outside Kusari--which also would explain why Kusari authorities don't mind looking the other way towards drug traffic that is going away from Kusari to gaijin--less problem for Kusari.

It's the other way around. The Hogosha view the Junkers as a threat, and want to keep them out of Kusari. The Junkers on the other hand simply don't give a rats arse, they just want profit. They won't go out of their way to kill Hogosha, since they're not ideologically motivated. Unless it's in a Junker's own interest to attack a Hogosha, he probably won't (or shouldn't anyways).

Also just to note this: I agree with Chopper, Hogosha shouldn't smuggle artifacts to Liberty. They don't care about Liberty, they care about Kusari. They're the Yakuza, not decentralised entrepreneurs like Junkers are. Since the prices in Kusari for artifacts are nothing short of OORP right now, I figure it could be let to slide, but if they get fixed then Hogosha really shouldn't even be out of Kusari unless it's for a really good reason. They wouldn't want to be either.

At least that's how I see it.

It would be a shame to see some of these factions locked away in a tiny closet of confined play only. The other thread mentioned how few kusari and hogosha players there are overall and I can tell you why. people look and go, "Hmm, all their role play is just in Kusari" and then say, "Naah" and then go play a more open, fun and varied faction.

The only non-corporate factions that aren't confined to a single house are Outcasts, Corsairs, Junkers and BHG. It's a non argument. The reason why Hogosha enjoy so little attention is because people view them from a pvp perspective. It's exactly the same reason why standard Junker factions aren't exactly on the high rise either. There's not that many enemies and/or you need to learn the complex (and possibly quite skewed) diplomacy that comes with the faction. It either goes past unnoticed, or people get bored with it quickly.

In fact, most people just join the faction that has the most pvp, which would be the house military factions or the outcasts/corsairs. Not that it's a bad thing, but it's something that is easily noticable.