Deterrence OF application

[Ravenna Nagash]

Or would you prefer it to be sent in a hermetically sealed container?

You can send it to my bell-boy with a latte machiatto please.

Ought to make sure the OF creation thread remains pristine.

Don't you worry my friend, we have regular residents in this thread who seem intent on moving the goal-post on a regular basis. As the saying goes, I offer them money, they'll play the man of honor and take umbrage. I will ask them to do what is right and they'll play the brigand.

You know, the place that helps out the badmins to see what you lot are up to. If you don't mind, I'll look past that PR paragraph.

If you can't deal with or address an argument, why mention it at all?

Starting to resemble the usual feedback threads. I'm always right, done nothing wrong, here's a soyjak. Gotcha.

Didn't address my point. Also false equivalence. Has nothing to do with the topic.

Classic argument of "I RP with guns."

You didn't refute my argument or address it. Also your somehow ridiculous comeback has literally nothing to do logically with what I said. But I'll play along. Even if I was to accept your premise, it's absolutely clear as day that we give blues on a regular basis. More so than probably any other group currently on the server. We've held multiple events, two of which public, and one of which with real RP consequence for us and we've lost both public events. We lose battles on a regular basis. Your comment is absolute nonsense and the evidence is abundantly clear in this thread and even supported passionately from our enemies. Nothing more to add here really, as it's clear as day.

Hope you can see how that one sounds now. I admit, it is problematic to balance such a fight. That however requires you to try balancing it, and not just say "we did it" while solaris cruisers rain down on lone bombers/snubs.

That's a two way street and it requires communication.

Please enlighten me about that one. I'm sure it'll be a knee slapper.

I don't need to really. If you agree with the rest of my propositions, which you state that you do, then you have the rationale for what we do and why we do it.

As mentioned publicly, we are more than happy to host an event with equal numbers to make other factions that are our enemies happy. This is public knowledge by now and has been for awhile.

The real knee slapper for me was the ''actual pseudo-seriousness'' phrase, gave me a good chuckle.

There is nothing emotional with witnessing DTR going to gangbang some random dude in a BS who stands 0 chance AT ALL, even with help. You're going to harm the playerbase by demotivating people if you keep it up. That is a fact. Tone it down.

I am sorry but that's comedy gold statement right there. This server has been decaying in terms of player base long before DTR showed up at all. And to claim that the most newbie friendly faction on the server is harming and demotivating, or making people quit the game is absolutely hysterical. One look at the OF checks or relevant data will tell you that or even player count and faction activity. I mean the data is visible for people to see.

How can the Corsairs afford to waste so much fuel on fighters? Corsairs are meant to be formidable fighter pilots. Why are they running? Why are they dishonoring Corsair values? Why would they prefer capital

I am not sure what are you basing your argument on in terms of us running away. As evidenced by our enemies as well on this thread, we provide blues constantly. Just so I don't rinse-repeat the same argument, see my previous points above. To claim DTR wins every fight because of numbers or we win even regularly is again just ludacris. Even on the occasions that we do win, we usually lose a bunch of people due our fleet coordination still being trained, way more than we should. This is clearly visible to all.

Last coordinated public event we hosted, we lost without getting a single kill if memory serves me correctly or maybe we got 1 person. So honestly, this argument is just nuts.

I've always limited numbers where I can and I certainly not have sent 12 people onto 2 nor 5. And balancing around capital gameplay is always difficult. How the FUCK are you supposed to balance VERY HEAVY FIGHTERS against a group of BATTLESHIPS? Are you insane?

Here's a novel, bold, and radical idea. Maybe don't engage a battle group? I really don't get this mentality that some players seem to have. ''I am going to engage and attack an entire battle group, talk trash or whatever, and then when I get mopped, I come and complain I didn't get a fair fight.''

Worth mentioning is that we do not control indie Corsairs or Corsairs from other affiliations. That fact often seems glossed I've noticed even though quite often DTR flies together with indies.

I am all for fairness and that jazz but as already mentioned - people's idea about fairness only seems to encompass the numbers. Nobody seems to be concerned about player skill level, tech being used. And again, the numbers seem to only apply to us. But everyone else is fair game in terms of using it.

It isn't a match making game, but have you ever considered any sort of sportsmanship? "real battle" ... It's a game. This isn't a war, what are you on about. Other players, so far I've witnessed this year, can offer relief and pull some people off.

As stated multiple times, we are more than happy to accommodate and host an equal numbers event like we've done with our other enemies. We can even attach RP or actual consequences to it. I don't know how much more sportsmanship one can get than that. But if we are being real honest, it's likely that we'll lose as you can get some vets on your side and whip us because we probably have maybe 3 players in DTR who are competent in PvP on an equal footing. And guess what, I am fine with that.

I have had them for ages and some people know I have been a bit vocal in other chats. I don't care.

I am sorry but I don't know how I can help you in this case. I can't do anything for you if you don't raise problems so I am not exactly sure how you can hold that against us.

I do not care for these mental gymnastics of "what aboutisms" and "im never wrong" attitudes. I don't care.

Why should I care about you or your perspective then?

What I care about, is how you're treating people and willingness to do something new so that the game can be fun.

I've previously mentioned that I am happy to discuss the root cause analysis, what the problem is, we can do RP event on an equal numbers, and what are possible solutions and how we can do things better.

What else do you want from me? Disband DTR? Sacrifice a lamb for you?

Oh, and for reference, I barely interact with DTR as is on the server.

If you barely interact with us at all, then how do you have issues with us allegedly for over months? You seem to be contradicting yourself.

I'm speaking up about it because no one else will.

Please don't make yourself into a martyr. We are not the evil empire in this universe. (yet ) In fact, if I recall correctly, you literally used our numbers to supply your PoB that was getting sieged. And we did that for you for no cost on top of it all. We made an internal group event to help you. You seem to have conveniently forgotten.

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