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Offline mjolnir
07-22-2008, 12:03 AM,
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' Wrote:why are you not happy with the foreward gun stats? - roughly 20.000 damage at a quick fire rate and a reasonable amount of energy is fine, imo. decreasing the refire while increasing the damage neutralizes itself sort of - except that one has to aim better and a missed shot weight heavier against the gunboat.

Well take a really slow GB - Rheinland one for example. The forward gun can basically only be fired straight forward.Now if you are fighting a cruiser you can't be pointing at it for longer periods of time (from under 1400ms at current range), since you will take a lot of damage.

If you double the damage and half the refire you can dodge much more between the shots.

Right now most of the time it's not worth the extra stress to point your ship precisely towards the other one since the damage done in one shot is low.. and he moves away before you fire next one. Instead other GBs just sit at 1.6-1.8k and hit the Cruiser/BS with Cerbs without taking damage (since they can strafe away from shots at that range)

That's why range might be even more important that doubling the damage.

Also there are two Forward Gun classes, I guess the smaller ones (Liberty, Dragon, Orca, currently around 16 damage) can get only some 1600 range and 3/2 the damage with decreased refire. While the Larger (currently 20k damage) can get 200 range and 2 times damage/ half refire.


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Quote:there is a lot that can be tempered with - but there i d ask - why if its not only not broken, but also perfectly balanced. - one is easily tempted to meddle with the balance in favour for something. - like more projectile speed for more energy etc. - and quickly one has an imbalance problem.

As posted above the forward guns on the slow GBs are useless most of the time. Against GBs you can't hit (very limited firing arc), against cruisers you are a lot of damage (under 1400m) trying to point on them. Against BS you get annihilated at under 1400m.

If people want an anti-cab gb, they mount cerbs and infernos on their slow gbs.. and don't use the forward gun most of the time. I would never dare to call Rheinland, Bretonian or Dragon GB perfectly balanced against IMG, Rogue or Corsair one.


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Kusari GB is the a example of a GB with forward gun that can actually dodge at 1400meters. Still the fast refire/low per shot damage make it worse anti-cap ship than if it had one extra normal hardpoint mounting a cerberus. Which is strange.

I'm not saying it should be better anti-cap than 8 Turret GBs... but the forward firing gun should be and advantage against caps over having one normal turret slot in the same place.

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GB forward guns - by mjolnir - 07-21-2008, 11:30 PM
GB forward guns - by Jinx - 07-21-2008, 11:45 PM
GB forward guns - by mjolnir - 07-22-2008, 12:03 AM
GB forward guns - by Tenacity - 07-22-2008, 12:13 AM
GB forward guns - by Doom - 07-22-2008, 12:17 AM
GB forward guns - by Tenacity - 07-22-2008, 12:21 AM
GB forward guns - by Doom - 07-22-2008, 12:30 AM
GB forward guns - by mjolnir - 07-22-2008, 12:35 AM
GB forward guns - by chopper - 07-22-2008, 03:14 AM
GB forward guns - by Tenacity - 07-22-2008, 03:24 AM
GB forward guns - by Jinx - 07-22-2008, 07:38 AM
GB forward guns - by Tenacity - 07-22-2008, 07:44 AM
GB forward guns - by Jinx - 07-22-2008, 07:55 AM
GB forward guns - by mjolnir - 07-22-2008, 09:18 AM
GB forward guns - by Teknikal - 07-22-2008, 11:00 AM
GB forward guns - by mjolnir - 07-22-2008, 11:57 AM
GB forward guns - by chopper - 07-22-2008, 12:12 PM
GB forward guns - by mjolnir - 07-22-2008, 12:13 PM
GB forward guns - by Blodo - 07-22-2008, 12:39 PM
GB forward guns - by Teknikal - 07-22-2008, 12:51 PM
GB forward guns - by mjolnir - 07-22-2008, 12:53 PM
GB forward guns - by chopper - 07-22-2008, 12:56 PM
GB forward guns - by El Nino - 07-22-2008, 12:59 PM
GB forward guns - by Teknikal - 07-22-2008, 01:04 PM
GB forward guns - by Scaramanga - 07-22-2008, 01:16 PM
GB forward guns - by Jinx - 07-22-2008, 01:58 PM
GB forward guns - by mjolnir - 07-22-2008, 02:05 PM
GB forward guns - by chopper - 07-22-2008, 02:53 PM
GB forward guns - by El Nino - 07-22-2008, 05:40 PM
GB forward guns - by RingoW - 07-25-2008, 02:55 PM
GB forward guns - by Jamez - 07-25-2008, 03:10 PM
GB forward guns - by chopper - 07-25-2008, 03:14 PM
GB forward guns - by Teknikal - 07-25-2008, 04:48 PM
GB forward guns - by mjolnir - 07-25-2008, 05:00 PM
GB forward guns - by El Nino - 07-25-2008, 10:36 PM
GB forward guns - by jimmy Patterson - 07-26-2008, 10:37 AM
GB forward guns - by Jinx - 07-26-2008, 11:31 AM
GB forward guns - by RingoW - 07-26-2008, 04:01 PM
GB forward guns - by Teknikal - 07-27-2008, 08:02 AM
GB forward guns - by El Nino - 07-27-2008, 08:16 AM
GB forward guns - by Jinx - 07-27-2008, 09:00 AM
GB forward guns - by Teknikal - 07-27-2008, 09:37 AM

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