Hogosha in NY

[Stucuk]

Point is, it's silly to sanction Hogosha players for being in NY, by the rules.

Noone is asking for sanctions. To this date i have filed 0 sanction reports. The point of this thread is to work out if Hogosha are legaly allowed to be in Liberty space and if not can be legaly under server rules asked to leave.

Why do you even think that EVERYONE would know about them being a Mob?
Especially everyone outside Kusari. In Kusari it's common knowledge, but outside.. I don't think so.

Everyone knows the Mafia are a mob. So why wouldn't everyone know Hogosha are a mob?

It's zoi is expanded by mod itself, by selling prices of artifacts.
Hogosha are MAIN smugglers of artifacts, and artifacts are best sold in Liberty.
So, whoever made it that way should know that where Artifacts go - Hogosha goes.
It's not same for Corsairs, as Corsairs are NOT Artifact smugglers, they are artifact producers.

It doesn't matter what the prices of things are. That doesn't determin a ZOI. Lore is what determins a ZOI, based on lore Hogosha are only found in Kusari and the surrounding systems. Junkers lore wise would stop any Hogosha ships with the help of Pirates from reaching any house system thats not Kusari. They would also most likley have most of the law payed off so they would tell Hogosha to leave there space(Its well known that police in rl get payed off). Hogosha would use nutral smugglers to transport the goods into other house systems, they wouldn't risk there own ships. All good mafia/mobs/etc use nutral people to smuggle there goods into other peoples territories, that way if they get cought noone knows it was them, so they don't get any heat and they also don't loose any one of there members. Mafia/Mobs rarely would send there own people into someone elses turf.

By your view of things, if Yakuza showed up in New York (RL), he would be arrested and killed as soon as they found out he's in.

Police kill anyone related to pirate groups in Freelancer, but in real life you never kill/arest someone just because they have ties to a criminal. So your point is mute.

As I said, stop limiting Hogosha's RP without facts.

Im not out to limit peoples RP, just to see that when people pick a faction they stick to there ZOI like everyone else has to.

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