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Offline Chenzo-
04-03-2023, 04:15 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-03-2023, 04:29 PM by Chenzo-.)
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(04-03-2023, 03:54 PM)Haste Wrote:
(04-03-2023, 03:46 PM)Chenzo- Wrote: [snip]
but 7/8 days supply with a stock-up in case of siege taking over 16 hours, even with 32 players doing 30 mins each.(unfortunately doesn't split like this even if the whole server activity was to chip in time to a single base)

All that to be popped by 12 dreadnaughts in less than 7 hours? That totally ignores the millions of units and input time required to get a base to that core level to begin with.
[and also snip]

Twelve Dreadnoughts sieging for 7 hours adds up to 84 man-hours. The stock up period adds up, by your own math, to 16 hours. That means the attackers are investing 5.25 times more hours into this whole thing than the defenders, by your own example.

That to me seems like it's still tilted in favor of the attackers.

I get what you're saying but you snipped a portion.

a core 4 base takes an absolute minimum of 3.5 months? At least two months of combined hardcore ore trading prior for the cash. Assuming RP is flowing, player activity is dedicated, The daily consumption rates, repair commodities to bring the bases health up etc etc etc.

You can't compare the time of a stock up in prep to hope surviving a siege vs the time taken to shoot it down, you have to take into account the months prior to even get there.

PoB's should be destructible, for sure. By no means am I saying that they should invincible. The struggle here is balance, and what has been put forward to to take place means 84 hours for 12 players across 7 real hours is stackable against 5.5 months, split however you like.

(04-03-2023, 03:54 PM)Haste Wrote: I will say, however, that there are plans to a do a far more in-depth rework of siege mechanics, and one of the core mechanics we will be working with - in all likelihood - is "Damage caps per siege" - meaning the twelve dreadnoughts in your example would get to shoot a base for, perhaps, thirty minutes before rendering it invincible for an amount of time. It's just that we need to make sure such a rework gets all the numbers right and accounts for all sorts of potential issues.

This sounds like a decent trade off, however what would happen after the invincibility time kicks in? How long before the siege will be allowed to continue/be effective in dealing damage?

(03-31-2023, 10:37 PM)Chenzo- Wrote: From reading this thread a few points are very clear:
People like the fact unmaintained bases will die quickly- let’s up this to a base without supplies will pop within a week. Not the 70ish day mark. (My suggestion based on clearing the server of unmaintained bases).

Why not simply implement something like this with the current consumption rates until what you mentioned above as a possibility is finalised?

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Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 03-29-2023, 05:40 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Xenon - 03-29-2023, 05:57 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Karst - 03-29-2023, 05:59 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by darkwind - 03-29-2023, 06:03 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Lemon - 03-29-2023, 06:24 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by MechaCheff - 03-29-2023, 06:19 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-29-2023, 06:34 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Lemon - 03-29-2023, 06:19 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Reno - 03-29-2023, 06:25 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Karst - 03-29-2023, 06:43 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-29-2023, 06:55 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-29-2023, 07:09 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 03-29-2023, 07:14 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-29-2023, 07:22 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Saronsen - 03-30-2023, 05:03 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-30-2023, 03:36 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Shinju - 03-29-2023, 07:07 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-29-2023, 06:31 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Sombs - 03-29-2023, 06:37 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-29-2023, 06:44 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Erremnart - 03-29-2023, 06:43 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Reddy - 03-29-2023, 06:56 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Reno - 03-29-2023, 07:00 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Major Thomas - 03-29-2023, 07:06 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chronicron - 03-29-2023, 07:14 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Haste - 03-29-2023, 07:29 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Sombs - 03-29-2023, 07:33 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Couden - 03-29-2023, 07:37 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 03-29-2023, 07:45 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Major Thomas - 03-29-2023, 07:52 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by darkwind - 03-29-2023, 07:53 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-29-2023, 07:54 PM
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RE: Changes to POBs - by Erremnart - 03-29-2023, 09:23 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by TonyB - 03-30-2023, 03:26 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Mr.Jamison - 04-05-2023, 04:42 AM
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RE: Changes to POBs - by Lemon - 03-29-2023, 10:34 PM
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RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 03-30-2023, 01:02 AM
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RE: Changes to POBs - by Aingar - 03-30-2023, 09:03 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 03-30-2023, 03:40 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Sam101 - 03-30-2023, 03:54 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by sasapinjic - 03-30-2023, 11:24 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by TonyB - 03-30-2023, 04:02 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Haste - 03-30-2023, 04:31 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Fab - 03-30-2023, 04:25 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by TonyB - 03-30-2023, 05:39 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 03-30-2023, 05:59 PM
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RE: Changes to POBs - by Aingar - 03-30-2023, 07:50 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Saronsen - 03-31-2023, 11:34 AM
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RE: Changes to POBs - by Aingar - 03-31-2023, 03:37 PM
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RE: Changes to POBs - by monmarfori - 03-31-2023, 06:05 PM
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RE: Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 03-31-2023, 08:40 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Lord Helmchen - 03-31-2023, 10:38 PM
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RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 03-31-2023, 10:49 PM
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RE: Changes to POBs - by Lord Helmchen - 04-03-2023, 02:13 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 04-03-2023, 07:39 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 04-03-2023, 02:56 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 04-03-2023, 03:46 PM
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RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 04-03-2023, 11:44 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 04-04-2023, 12:56 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 04-04-2023, 06:01 PM
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RE: Changes to POBs - by Saronsen - 04-02-2023, 05:53 AM
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