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Offline St.Denis
04-03-2023, 05:50 PM,
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(04-03-2023, 03:46 PM)Chenzo- Wrote: Hi,

I based my numbers off the siege I witnessed, the CR siege of the core 2 base.

Yes, I did take into account the heightened rate of which bases are fixed, but also the heightened consumption rate.

Like a sugar rush, the supplies load in to repair under siege but as 50k of Hull Panels(100k space), 50K Robotic Hardware and 80k of Reinforced alloy would be eaten very quickly to compensate for said load, the base would then be "empty" and as a result not repair at all. the end result being a core 4 base under new rules will pop in less than half the time a core 2 base would have under current rules whilst under seige.

Was there also any comment on the time is takes to supply an unlawful base under new rules? The time to earn the credits to even purchase said supplies? You can say that it's meant to be a team effort with things, but 7/8 days supply with a stock-up in case of siege taking over 16 hours, even with 32 players doing 30 mins each.(unfortunately doesn't split like this even if the whole server activity was to chip in time to a single base)

All that to be popped by 12 dreadnaughts in less than 7 hours? That totally ignores the millions of units, input time for vast levels of in game time and timestamped forum-posted RP required to get a base to that core level to begin with.

If this is the case, only DTR making up the vast majority of logged server time are able to run a PoB due to the sheer numbers required to do so, unless of course they have multiple people sinking a few hours a day as their entire play time purely to supply it.

Please correct me if this understanding is wrong. I'd really love to be wrong.

A damaged Base, regardless of whether it is sieged or not, will use:
Core 1 = 8,640 of each RM per day
Core 2 = 17,280 of each RM per day
Core 3 = 25,920 of each RM per day
Core 4 = 34,560 of each RM per day

I think your workings out are totally way off.

Old Setting Wrote:Core 2 = 600 million hps
Repair Rate (RR) = 2000 x 3 Repair Materials (RMs) x 2 (Core Level) = 12,000 hps per 20 seconds (Repair Tick)
W&T Damage = 600 + (600 x Core Level) = 1,800 per 120 seconds.

Lets say it is being sieged by 5 BSs with 3 Cerbs each.

First we will look at the first BS:
This is based on that with 3 Cerbs (45k per sec) firing at a Base (with shield) will be doing 182,250 damage per minute (taking it that it only fires 45 seconds of that minute) (45,000 x 3 (number of Cerbs) x 45 (effective firing time) x 3% (shield absorbs 97% of damage).
So for the the W&T to be factored in to this, the damage taken by the Base after 2 minutes (120 seconds) = (182,250 x 2) + 1,800 (W&T) = 366,300.

The Base, in that same 2 minutes, will repair 12,000 x 6 (20 seconds repair ticks) = 72,000 hps

So, the first BS overcomes the RR and effectively does 294,300 damage to the Base.
Seeing as the 1st BS has ovecome the RR, the other 4 BSs will do their full damage of 366,300 x 4 = 1,465,200 damage every 2 minutes

So the Base will take 1,465,200 + 294,300 = 1,759,500 damage every 2 minutes
Which equates to: 52.785 million hps per hour.
With a starting value of 600 million, the Base would last about 11.4 hours.


New Settings Wrote:Core 2 = 600 million hps
Repair Rate (RR) =6000 x 3 Repair Materials (RMs) x 2 (Core Level) = 36,000 hps per 20 seconds (Repair Tick)
W&T Damage = 600 + (600 x Core Level) = 1,800 per 20 seconds.

So for the the W&T to be factored in to this, the damage taken by the Base after 2 minutes (120 seconds) = (182,250 x 2) + (1,800 x 6) (W&T) = 375,300.
The Base, in that same 2 minutes, will repair 36,000 x 6 (20 seconds repair ticks) = 216,000 hps

So, the first BS overcomes the RR and effectively does 159,300 damage to the Base.
Seeing as the 1st BS has ovecome the RR, the other 4 BSs will do their full damage of 366,300 x 4 = 1,465,200 damage every 2 minutes

So the Base will take 1,465,200 + 159,300 = 1,624,500 damage every 2 minutes
Which equates to: 48.735 million hps per hour.
With a starting value of 600 million, the Base would last about 12.3 hours.

So, with the new RR & W&T damage numbers, your Base will still use the same amount of RMs, if seiged, in a 24 hour period, but will last nearly an hour longer.

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Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 03-29-2023, 05:40 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Xenon - 03-29-2023, 05:57 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Karst - 03-29-2023, 05:59 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by darkwind - 03-29-2023, 06:03 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Lemon - 03-29-2023, 06:24 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by MechaCheff - 03-29-2023, 06:19 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-29-2023, 06:34 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Lemon - 03-29-2023, 06:19 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Reno - 03-29-2023, 06:25 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Karst - 03-29-2023, 06:43 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-29-2023, 06:55 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-29-2023, 07:09 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 03-29-2023, 07:14 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-29-2023, 07:22 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Saronsen - 03-30-2023, 05:03 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-30-2023, 03:36 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Shinju - 03-29-2023, 07:07 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-29-2023, 06:31 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Sombs - 03-29-2023, 06:37 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-29-2023, 06:44 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Erremnart - 03-29-2023, 06:43 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Reddy - 03-29-2023, 06:56 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Reno - 03-29-2023, 07:00 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Major Thomas - 03-29-2023, 07:06 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chronicron - 03-29-2023, 07:14 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Haste - 03-29-2023, 07:29 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Sombs - 03-29-2023, 07:33 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Couden - 03-29-2023, 07:37 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 03-29-2023, 07:45 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Major Thomas - 03-29-2023, 07:52 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by darkwind - 03-29-2023, 07:53 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-29-2023, 07:54 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by LuckyOne - 03-29-2023, 08:22 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Couden - 03-29-2023, 08:44 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Erremnart - 03-29-2023, 09:23 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by TonyB - 03-30-2023, 03:26 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Mr.Jamison - 04-05-2023, 04:42 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Leo - 04-05-2023, 06:52 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Mr.Jamison - 04-05-2023, 06:58 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Lemon - 03-29-2023, 10:34 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Lord Helmchen - 03-29-2023, 10:38 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Damnsoul - 03-29-2023, 11:04 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Oprixy - 03-29-2023, 11:17 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 03-30-2023, 01:02 AM
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RE: Changes to POBs - by Festus McBoyle - 03-30-2023, 06:52 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Aingar - 03-30-2023, 09:03 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 03-30-2023, 03:40 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Sam101 - 03-30-2023, 03:54 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by sasapinjic - 03-30-2023, 11:24 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by TonyB - 03-30-2023, 04:02 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Haste - 03-30-2023, 04:31 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Fab - 03-30-2023, 04:25 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by TonyB - 03-30-2023, 05:39 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 03-30-2023, 05:59 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by TonyB - 03-30-2023, 06:14 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Aingar - 03-30-2023, 07:50 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Saronsen - 03-31-2023, 11:34 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Karlotta - 04-01-2023, 11:43 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by US| - 03-30-2023, 08:56 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-30-2023, 09:26 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Zoners of Galileo - 03-30-2023, 09:28 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by US| - 03-30-2023, 10:32 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Stewgar - 03-31-2023, 06:59 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Zoners of Galileo - 03-30-2023, 08:59 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Aingar - 03-31-2023, 01:09 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Corile - 03-31-2023, 03:18 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Aingar - 03-31-2023, 03:37 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Laz - 03-31-2023, 06:03 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by monmarfori - 03-31-2023, 06:05 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Lachtraube - 03-31-2023, 06:52 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 03-31-2023, 08:40 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Lord Helmchen - 03-31-2023, 10:38 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 03-31-2023, 10:37 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Megaera - 03-31-2023, 10:42 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by darkwind - 03-31-2023, 11:21 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by LuckyOne - 03-31-2023, 10:43 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 03-31-2023, 10:49 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Broken Wings - 03-31-2023, 10:58 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Lemon - 04-01-2023, 12:02 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by LuckyOne - 04-01-2023, 11:45 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 04-02-2023, 10:21 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 03-31-2023, 10:47 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Dr. Richard Batsbak - 03-31-2023, 11:18 PM
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RE: Changes to POBs - by Dr. Richard Batsbak - 04-01-2023, 01:00 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 04-01-2023, 10:22 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Lord Helmchen - 04-03-2023, 02:13 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 04-03-2023, 07:39 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 04-03-2023, 02:56 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 04-03-2023, 03:46 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Haste - 04-03-2023, 03:54 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 04-03-2023, 04:15 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Kauket - 04-03-2023, 03:56 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 04-03-2023, 05:50 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 04-03-2023, 11:44 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by St.Denis - 04-04-2023, 12:56 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 04-04-2023, 06:01 PM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Tyrone Harrison Jnr - 04-01-2023, 10:57 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Saronsen - 04-02-2023, 05:53 AM
RE: Changes to POBs - by Chenzo- - 04-02-2023, 09:57 AM
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