factionized flagships

[mjolnir]

About factionized flagships:

Interesting idea

I wouldn't mind seeing them even though I don't thing it is worth the extra place/implementing problems.
I think you should talk to the boss if he will ever say yes to it.

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i honestly do think all cap ships should have a major overhall this is just be trying to get battleships a overhall in some ways without it being a great nusiance to the overall community.

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i am personally volunteering to do the restating, all factions who have theyre flag ship as a cruiser i am MORE than willing to do those also. but like i said i honestly think all caps need a major overhall for they arent capital ships, theyre big flying meat shields of death and flying death traps

EDIT: and honestly i dont think adding a gun or 2 would make them any less useless, they will still be able to be taken down by 2-3 bombers and the only thing that would change is theyre usefulness against other capital ships which is not which is in question right now

There's a reason why MKI cruisers need loving, because people pilot them in turret mode and die to bombers and gunships. Also because the roles that they play need to be re-evaluated and balanced accordingly. At the moment cruisers act chiefly as more vulnerable gunboats than anything else. Simply doubling the armor isn't going to do anything save cause it to live longer, not solve any underlying balance issues.

I do agree that caps need major re-evaluation. Granted I'm a small ship kinda guy, but I do own a secret destroyer and pair of gunboats (pirating in a gunboat makes me feel dirty though, like stepping out of college to go grab lunch money at the nearby primary) and I fight them all the time as a ZnO. The decreasing appreciation of power from Gunboat (the best bang for your buck by far to Battleships (still overwhelming, but extremely manageable for the money you have to invest in one).

If you have overhauling ideas feel free to come with them. (Maybe in a different thread than this)


My idea about classes is:

Ships that are in the middle - VHFs and GBs are by far the most universal - in numbers they can kill anything. But they are not the best ship for any single task.The more "extreme" the ship gets the better it is in doing a special task, but weaker at doing other things:

so
LFs- kill VHFs/Bombers easily, bad against caps
Bombers - kill Cruiser/BSs easily, medium against GBs (mostly due to agility and missiles on GBs), medium against VHFs, bad against LFs
Cruisers - good against GBs, medium against BS, weak against bombers
BS - good against cruisers, medium(or good) against GBs, weak against bombers

The problematic issues as I see them now and solutions that I can think of:

some Bombers are too good against fighters => fixing those - currently Catamarans and Taiidan IMHO

GBs are too powerfull against cruisers - powerplant changes on GBs - as in chopper's proposal, generally all but the slowest GBs get powerplant decrease

Cruisers are too weak against GBs and die fast - cruiser powerplant increase (to fire Mortar etc..) also in the same thread already, armor increase

Battleships - die fast to bombers, or groups of GBs/Cruisers - armor and powerplant increase.

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