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Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons?
Offline Jinx
07-26-2008, 09:54 PM,
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here is a suggestion.. - taken from how homeworld balances it ( or at much as you can compare a RTS with a free roam action simulation )

homeworld ships have very few turrets ( deactivating turrets on ships does not need a wipe )

so here is a theory...

gunships : 3 - 6 turrets
destroyers : 4 turrets
cruisers : 1 weapon, 4 turrets
battlecruisers : 1 weapon, 6 turrets
battleships ( small ) : 6 turrets
battleships ( large ) : 8 turrets

now, you might say "what the hell, why?" - to specialize more on what the actual turrets do. - a gunship could have guns with stats like that:

damage: 500 ( or an alternate turret doing 2000 shield damage for maybe 14.000 energy like a cerberus )
projectile speed: 4000
refire: 3.03
range : 1200

the effect is: the gunship is specialized in taking down fighters - with unmatched accuracy it is able to inflict some 2000 damage to an enemy fighter - while that might not be much more than a fighter can do, the gunboat itself will have a greater defense due to its shields. - so while a fighter cracks the gunboats shields, the gunboat will already tear it down. - the lack of more turrets will make it ineffective against capital ships though with the low refire rate.

destroyers should mount battleship class weapons - but only 4 of them. so they can do a hell lot of damage for their size... but they d be ineffective against bombers and rather unflexible.

cruisers would have one spinal mount weapon like a razor or something that drains so much energy that they can only really mount one ( without a wipe, it would have to be a turret ) - something like the liberty foreward gun. - 100.000 damage for little energy. - this turret should be limited in its arc ( can do that easily, cause the turret itself can be limited like a GB gun ) - the other turrets are GB like... for point defense. - the whole ship would be too slow to fly like a gunboat - so the PD turrets won t work like a hunters weapons on the GB, but only in turret mode.

cruisers and battlecruisers improve this concept at the cost of agility and size.

battleships would have long range weapons with slow refire and slow projectile speeds AND turrets like the gunboat with more damage ( in the end, they are much bigger )

so the GB like PD turret would maybe do 3000 damage and could severely damage a fighter, - but since it only has so few turrets - having a PD turret over an anticap turret can turn the tide of the battle.

so a normal BB turret should be like that:

30.000 damage
1000ms speed
2.5k range
40.0000 energy ( current basic turrets eat around 10k )
0.25 refire

so the battleship would have to choose to give up a lot of weaponpower for antifighter weapons. - if it went all antifighter, it would be useless against even enemy gunboats in numbers - cause its turrets won t outdamage them.

why so few turrets? - cause a choice weighs harder then. - now we have 16 turrets - doesn t matter if i fire with 16 or with 14 turrets - not really. but when i only have 6... i have to choose more wisely.

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Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-26-2008, 08:37 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Tenacity - 07-26-2008, 08:44 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-26-2008, 09:06 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Jinx - 07-26-2008, 09:08 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Unseelie - 07-26-2008, 09:08 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-26-2008, 09:17 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Tenacity - 07-26-2008, 09:31 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Muleo - 07-26-2008, 09:35 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Jinx - 07-26-2008, 09:41 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-26-2008, 09:41 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Jinx - 07-26-2008, 09:54 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-26-2008, 10:04 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 07-26-2008, 10:08 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 07-26-2008, 10:08 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 07-26-2008, 11:07 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-26-2008, 11:20 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Virus - 07-26-2008, 11:43 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-26-2008, 11:57 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by gafwmn - 07-27-2008, 12:35 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by timmychen - 07-27-2008, 01:34 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-27-2008, 01:45 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by mjolnir - 07-27-2008, 02:03 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Raekur - 07-27-2008, 03:52 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by dizbmikuni - 07-27-2008, 02:23 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Muleo - 07-27-2008, 02:34 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by worldstrider - 07-27-2008, 03:44 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by dizbmikuni - 08-01-2008, 02:07 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dantrithor - 08-01-2008, 02:43 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by dizbmikuni - 08-01-2008, 02:59 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Armageddon - 08-01-2008, 04:22 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Telbasta - 08-01-2008, 04:42 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by ... kur nubėgo? - 08-06-2008, 12:37 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Cellulanus - 08-06-2008, 07:56 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by MrCynical - 08-06-2008, 08:36 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by sovereign - 08-06-2008, 09:15 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 08-06-2008, 09:56 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Mannock - 08-07-2008, 04:55 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Ranquest - 08-17-2008, 03:57 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 08-17-2008, 05:39 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-18-2008, 02:36 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-18-2008, 02:48 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-18-2008, 03:05 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Eppy - 08-18-2008, 03:14 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-18-2008, 03:23 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-18-2008, 04:25 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Eppy - 08-18-2008, 04:37 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by frozen - 08-18-2008, 04:57 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-18-2008, 05:18 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-18-2008, 06:14 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Linkus - 08-18-2008, 06:17 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by mjolnir - 08-18-2008, 10:57 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-19-2008, 08:24 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Seth Karlo - 08-19-2008, 11:37 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-19-2008, 07:01 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-19-2008, 07:16 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Armageddon - 08-19-2008, 09:08 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 08-20-2008, 12:21 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-20-2008, 01:39 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by jimmy Patterson - 08-20-2008, 02:03 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Lunaphase - 08-20-2008, 03:43 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by jimmy Patterson - 08-20-2008, 04:08 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-20-2008, 07:00 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-20-2008, 03:56 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-20-2008, 08:21 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-20-2008, 10:23 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by SGTMatt - 08-21-2008, 12:13 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-21-2008, 11:35 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-21-2008, 05:09 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Lunaphase - 08-21-2008, 05:18 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Armageddon - 08-21-2008, 05:25 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Varyag - 08-21-2008, 06:43 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-21-2008, 07:22 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Edge - 08-21-2008, 08:07 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-21-2008, 08:25 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by mjolnir - 08-21-2008, 08:26 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 08-21-2008, 08:34 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by bluntpencil2001 - 08-21-2008, 09:19 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 08-21-2008, 09:29 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by bluntpencil2001 - 08-21-2008, 09:36 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-21-2008, 10:13 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 08-22-2008, 12:37 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-22-2008, 03:21 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 08-22-2008, 03:25 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by bluntpencil2001 - 08-22-2008, 01:48 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-22-2008, 03:50 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Edge - 08-22-2008, 08:40 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-22-2008, 09:13 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-22-2008, 10:16 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Jinx - 08-22-2008, 10:44 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by mjolnir - 08-22-2008, 11:29 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-23-2008, 12:13 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-23-2008, 05:55 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 08-23-2008, 06:38 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-23-2008, 09:30 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-23-2008, 10:16 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by X-Lancer - 08-24-2008, 02:59 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-24-2008, 03:28 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Walker - 08-27-2008, 07:31 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 09-03-2008, 05:02 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Koolmo - 09-15-2008, 04:12 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Kell - 10-15-2008, 04:44 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Orin - 10-15-2008, 04:46 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Kell - 10-15-2008, 05:18 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Orin - 10-15-2008, 05:22 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Varyag - 10-15-2008, 06:26 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-17-2008, 03:07 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Akumabito - 10-17-2008, 05:25 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by AceofSpades - 10-17-2008, 06:41 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by gekerd - 10-22-2008, 08:07 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Akumabito - 10-23-2008, 01:15 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by mjolnir - 10-23-2008, 01:45 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-23-2008, 02:17 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Akumabito - 10-23-2008, 07:51 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by mjolnir - 10-23-2008, 10:56 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Jihadjoe - 10-23-2008, 02:45 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Akumabito - 10-23-2008, 05:48 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Niezck - 10-23-2008, 05:56 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dra1003 - 10-23-2008, 06:01 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Akumabito - 10-23-2008, 06:39 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Niezck - 10-23-2008, 07:09 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Akumabito - 10-23-2008, 07:54 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Blodo - 10-23-2008, 07:55 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Akumabito - 10-23-2008, 08:01 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Saigo.Watanabe - 10-23-2008, 08:05 PM
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Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Reverend Del - 10-23-2008, 08:41 PM
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