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Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons?
Offline mjolnir
07-27-2008, 02:03 AM,
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You know Dusty... everyone wants capships rebalanced. Problem is that you have as many ideas as many people there are discussing. Some ideas being vastly different than others.


About Flak, I really doubt it will get usable. It kind of depends if vanilla ships loose their damageable components. If they do then maybe it can be made useful at short range (under 600m?)

About Roles
You can't say that all GBs will be anti-fighter, all cruisers anti-gb etc. There are small and agile GBs/Cruisers and there are big ones with many turrets/armor.

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@Jinx, I need to think more about that idea before saying more, so just a short comment now:

I don't think there are going to be any radical changes done all at once. Simply because it's very difficult to balance things if a lot of them get changed at once. Sure we can set up a separate server for balancing/ideas only. Problem is that many issues are found/corrected/exploited first after some rather long time. I remember how I tested the new SN during all beta stages, playing almost daily yet I still thought it's so bad compared with old novas and should be changed. After 2 months I think it's much better. Out of the top of my head I can come with at least 8 other examples of issues found first afterwards. Now remember that there weren't any really big changes from 4.83-4.84 except the nova-sn.
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I can see some good points though:

1. GB gun range - yes that together with the recharge makes GBs uber
So
GB forward guns - 2000m range (can be dodged and are hard to aim)
Inferno/Razor - 1400 max.
Cerberus - some 1200m
Other turrets - 800m

2. Shield busting turrets (normal ones like Debilitators/Tizonas), for all cap classes, for GBs they will have same range as normal turrets (short)

As I said elsewhere both Cruiser and Battleships should get an energy and armor upgrade (some 50-100%).
More energy so that they are able to fire the high damage per hit weapons a lot more, for almost insta-killing GBs that come too close.

Normal turrets vs those guns needs some check as well (especially on BSs).







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Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-26-2008, 08:37 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Tenacity - 07-26-2008, 08:44 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-26-2008, 09:06 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Jinx - 07-26-2008, 09:08 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Unseelie - 07-26-2008, 09:08 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-26-2008, 09:17 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Tenacity - 07-26-2008, 09:31 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Muleo - 07-26-2008, 09:35 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Jinx - 07-26-2008, 09:41 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-26-2008, 09:41 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Jinx - 07-26-2008, 09:54 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-26-2008, 10:04 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 07-26-2008, 10:08 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 07-26-2008, 10:08 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 07-26-2008, 11:07 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-26-2008, 11:20 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Virus - 07-26-2008, 11:43 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-26-2008, 11:57 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by gafwmn - 07-27-2008, 12:35 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by timmychen - 07-27-2008, 01:34 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 07-27-2008, 01:45 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by mjolnir - 07-27-2008, 02:03 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Raekur - 07-27-2008, 03:52 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by dizbmikuni - 07-27-2008, 02:23 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Muleo - 07-27-2008, 02:34 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by worldstrider - 07-27-2008, 03:44 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by dizbmikuni - 08-01-2008, 02:07 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dantrithor - 08-01-2008, 02:43 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by dizbmikuni - 08-01-2008, 02:59 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Armageddon - 08-01-2008, 04:22 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Telbasta - 08-01-2008, 04:42 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by ... kur nubėgo? - 08-06-2008, 12:37 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Cellulanus - 08-06-2008, 07:56 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by MrCynical - 08-06-2008, 08:36 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by sovereign - 08-06-2008, 09:15 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 08-06-2008, 09:56 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Mannock - 08-07-2008, 04:55 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Ranquest - 08-17-2008, 03:57 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 08-17-2008, 05:39 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-18-2008, 02:36 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-18-2008, 02:48 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-18-2008, 03:05 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Eppy - 08-18-2008, 03:14 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-18-2008, 03:23 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-18-2008, 04:25 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Eppy - 08-18-2008, 04:37 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by frozen - 08-18-2008, 04:57 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-18-2008, 05:18 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-18-2008, 06:14 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Linkus - 08-18-2008, 06:17 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by mjolnir - 08-18-2008, 10:57 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-19-2008, 08:24 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Seth Karlo - 08-19-2008, 11:37 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-19-2008, 07:01 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-19-2008, 07:16 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Armageddon - 08-19-2008, 09:08 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 08-20-2008, 12:21 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-20-2008, 01:39 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by jimmy Patterson - 08-20-2008, 02:03 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Lunaphase - 08-20-2008, 03:43 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by jimmy Patterson - 08-20-2008, 04:08 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-20-2008, 07:00 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-20-2008, 03:56 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-20-2008, 08:21 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-20-2008, 10:23 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by SGTMatt - 08-21-2008, 12:13 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-21-2008, 11:35 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-21-2008, 05:09 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Lunaphase - 08-21-2008, 05:18 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Armageddon - 08-21-2008, 05:25 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Varyag - 08-21-2008, 06:43 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-21-2008, 07:22 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Edge - 08-21-2008, 08:07 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-21-2008, 08:25 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by mjolnir - 08-21-2008, 08:26 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 08-21-2008, 08:34 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by bluntpencil2001 - 08-21-2008, 09:19 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dusty Lens - 08-21-2008, 09:29 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by bluntpencil2001 - 08-21-2008, 09:36 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-21-2008, 10:13 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 08-22-2008, 12:37 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-22-2008, 03:21 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 08-22-2008, 03:25 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by bluntpencil2001 - 08-22-2008, 01:48 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-22-2008, 03:50 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Edge - 08-22-2008, 08:40 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-22-2008, 09:13 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-22-2008, 10:16 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Jinx - 08-22-2008, 10:44 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by mjolnir - 08-22-2008, 11:29 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-23-2008, 12:13 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by chopper - 08-23-2008, 05:55 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 08-23-2008, 06:38 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-23-2008, 09:30 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Bill Christ. - 08-23-2008, 10:16 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by X-Lancer - 08-24-2008, 02:59 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 08-24-2008, 03:28 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Walker - 08-27-2008, 07:31 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by El Nino - 09-03-2008, 05:02 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Koolmo - 09-15-2008, 04:12 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Kell - 10-15-2008, 04:44 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Orin - 10-15-2008, 04:46 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Kell - 10-15-2008, 05:18 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Orin - 10-15-2008, 05:22 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Varyag - 10-15-2008, 06:26 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-17-2008, 03:07 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Akumabito - 10-17-2008, 05:25 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by AceofSpades - 10-17-2008, 06:41 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by gekerd - 10-22-2008, 08:07 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Akumabito - 10-23-2008, 01:15 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by mjolnir - 10-23-2008, 01:45 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-23-2008, 02:17 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Akumabito - 10-23-2008, 07:51 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by mjolnir - 10-23-2008, 10:56 AM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Jihadjoe - 10-23-2008, 02:45 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Akumabito - 10-23-2008, 05:48 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Niezck - 10-23-2008, 05:56 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dra1003 - 10-23-2008, 06:01 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Akumabito - 10-23-2008, 06:39 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Niezck - 10-23-2008, 07:09 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Akumabito - 10-23-2008, 07:54 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Blodo - 10-23-2008, 07:55 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Akumabito - 10-23-2008, 08:01 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Saigo.Watanabe - 10-23-2008, 08:05 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Blodo - 10-23-2008, 08:10 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Jihadjoe - 10-23-2008, 08:17 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Dra1003 - 10-23-2008, 08:36 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Lux - 10-23-2008, 08:39 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by Reverend Del - 10-23-2008, 08:41 PM
Capships, increasingly slower fighters? Or strategic weapons? - by masterflak - 10-24-2008, 11:02 PM

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