Lawful IDs rework proposal

[Egon Bigmemes]

just ask Markam how many times he tried to reason with LibGov because they just wouldn't accept what story/systems proposed

hmmm? how many times indeed?

well in the last 3.5-4ish years I've been in libgov, markam has approached libgov, uh..
well he approached me once in DMs, and libgov zero times.
his one approach was trying to force liberty/rheinland hostility with zero input from liberty, rheinland (i havent heard otherwise), and the insurgency (according to then-resident hellfire players in libgov at the time). and it seems me having a "friendly" talking to with him worked, as absolutely no one wanted lib/rhein war at the time, 11 seconds after they just got done fighting kusari (trigger warning for the children in the forum, foul language) 1 2 3. he never spoke to the rest of libgov, so technically he has never tried to reason with libgov. ever. even people who've been in libgov nearly twice as long as me don't recall speaking to markam about anything libgov related. it never made it to the discord server if he did. perhaps he spoke to them on matters not related to libgov as a whole?
There was that one time in DWG that they asked liberty what to do with the carcassone, and everyone actually had a nearly unanimous agreement.

or perhaps you mean me disagreeing with systems on them deleting systems? sorry, im not libgov, just part of it, and i think you can see by the poll that many more people than libgov had an opinion on the matter.

so yes, ask markam just how many times he tried to reason with libgov. if he tells you its more than 0, he's lying.
i'd tell you to stop pulling shit out of your ass but you're so full of it you have an endless supply you need to get rid of