(07-10-2023, 10:07 AM)Petitioner Wrote: I don't understand the dislike towards "people who cyber 500k offplane", not least of all because it's pretty much never 500k offplane.For me, I'm here to tell stories; or rather, let the stories emergently write themselves. That's the beauty of a vast, complicated, interconnected universe, the stories and interactions that can emerge from the complexity of the environment and its inhabitants.
The funny part is that these two things are basically completely opposed to one another -- the people logging in to roleplay in their closed-off groups somewhere far off the beaten path aren't actually interested in these emergent stories you're talking about. If they were, they'd be out somewhere where more interaction might be able to bump into them without it looking like blatant playerlist meta. It's an unsubtle 'go away, leave us alone' indicator, and it's been like that for years. I think the dislike is perfectly understandable, because it represents the fact that a significant portion of the already dwindling playerbase doesn't actually contribute to any server-wide organic interaction; they just all log in a clump when some Discord chat pings and head into an isolated system to use the game as a particularly awkward chat program. It's the other side of the coin to the meme-name raid loggers who materialise any time there's a fight brewing to drill one side into the dirt -- I think both are harmful in their own ways, but even raid logging PvPers have a smidgen more justification in that they're actually interacting with people outside their specially selected bubble, even if that interaction takes the form of slamming them into the dirt.
It's hardly a problem unique to Discovery, either. You see these kinds of roleplay cliques all over the place in any setting that promotes it -- the difference is that they usually have to be even less subtle about freezing people out of interrupting their private groupings. Disco just happens to offer a ludicrously sized playing space to make all of that even easier, because you're literally never going to have anyone organically come across you if you don't want to be found.