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Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff

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Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff
Offline Fab
10-24-2023, 04:09 PM,
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(10-24-2023, 03:33 PM)Dark Chocolate Wrote: ::: MISSILE LANCER :::
As you can see here, quite a lot of battles victories are decided which side can spam more missiles at the other. Kiting suffers as well, if you have 1 or 2 low numbers now and you decide to kite, you will be missile spammed by everyone and their mother by the chasing side. Missiles were reworked to be effective kiting weapons - they're literally the answer to "what do I do if my opponent kites me to death?" especially with the new battlecruiser main gun. Missiles are an effective counter to the battlecruiser's back firepower, same with mortars. actually, missiles have low-range DPS compared to the other cruiser weapons. The Marauder has a DPS of 15k, on par with the tachyon.

-Oh and why were the Silo Missiles deleted? They were good. Big Slow payload crawling towards you to ruin your day, Not sure why we needed to delete it. There was this once I was flying a Liberty Insurgency siege cruiser being chased by the 1st Armada and a nightmare hit an asteroid beside me and I took HUGE amount of damage and died. I laughed pretty hard, it was quite epic. And even though Trinity torpedo wasn’t as effective before, may be we could improve it a bit? But that got deleted too. You only got two options on missiles now and that’s bland. Silo missiles needed to be removed because of the new gun+missile approach: higher refire, less desync. a low refire (30s) missile would be a huge outlier. Silo missiles are a very specific solution to a very specific problem (it can only target battleships. if you fight something else, you're pretty much lacking a precious heavy slot) - all loadouts should be able to at least challenge any class. Also, silo missiles need huge ranges (Nightmare needed 10k, another huge outlier nowadays) and huge turn rates (it would need to be as fast as the cruiser missiles) PLUS huge flight times because of their arc. Server would start lagging quickly if a quick refire silo missile was introduced. I too love silo missiles, they're the coolest and the best looking. I tried my best to implement them at patch 5.0, but they simply couldn't work well. They might be re-introduced at later stages.

answers in green.

pre-patch missiles also sucked. it's the reality. The only missile that coincidentally or not that actually worked was the battlecruiser javelin missile. present day marauder is just a javelin that fires only forward.

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Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Dark Chocolate - 10-24-2023, 03:33 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Fab - 10-24-2023, 04:09 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Levenna - 10-24-2023, 04:35 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Lemon - 10-24-2023, 04:58 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Chxlls - 10-24-2023, 05:26 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Nepotu - 10-24-2023, 06:20 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Antonio - 10-24-2023, 06:26 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Dark Chocolate - 10-24-2023, 09:32 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Firewolfy - 10-24-2023, 06:53 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Spectre - 10-24-2023, 07:11 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Dark Chocolate - 10-24-2023, 09:30 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Fab - 10-24-2023, 09:59 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Couden - 10-24-2023, 09:41 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Dark Chocolate - 10-24-2023, 10:02 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by LuckyOne - 10-24-2023, 09:58 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Fab - 10-24-2023, 10:00 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by LuckyOne - 10-24-2023, 10:07 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Couden - 10-24-2023, 10:11 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Reddy - 10-25-2023, 06:40 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Egon Bigmemes - 10-25-2023, 09:04 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Kaisershadow34 - 11-01-2023, 08:00 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Redcroft - 11-01-2023, 02:29 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Demonic - 11-01-2023, 03:07 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Kaisershadow34 - 11-01-2023, 07:25 PM
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RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Dark Chocolate - 11-10-2023, 02:15 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Haste - 11-10-2023, 02:31 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Dark Chocolate - 11-10-2023, 02:58 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Dark Chocolate - 11-11-2023, 09:35 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Levenna - 11-11-2023, 10:46 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Dark Chocolate - 11-11-2023, 11:37 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Sarwar - 11-11-2023, 11:41 PM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Lemon - 11-12-2023, 07:10 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Levenna - 11-12-2023, 02:09 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Dark Chocolate - 11-12-2023, 07:33 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Dark Chocolate - 11-12-2023, 07:39 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Lemon - 11-12-2023, 07:47 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Levenna - 11-12-2023, 08:21 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Schxer - 11-12-2023, 08:34 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Levenna - 11-12-2023, 08:37 AM
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RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by LuckyOne - 11-12-2023, 08:45 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Lemon - 11-12-2023, 08:47 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by The_Godslayer - 11-12-2023, 08:47 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Lord Caedus - 11-12-2023, 09:06 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Arcana - 11-12-2023, 09:07 AM
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RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by LuckyOne - 11-12-2023, 09:30 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by LuckyOne - 11-12-2023, 09:11 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Levenna - 11-12-2023, 09:25 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Schxer - 11-12-2023, 09:35 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Levenna - 11-12-2023, 09:37 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Levenna - 11-12-2023, 09:39 AM
RE: Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff - by Lord Caedus - 11-12-2023, 09:44 AM
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