(10-26-2023, 07:15 AM)SnakThree Wrote: Seeing how staff will be "supervising" everything governments do, I would like to know if there were incidents observed by players, or staff, that have been unfair or illogical that would warrant this shift from player-oriented government to staff-controlled. Thank you to those that can come forward and point out if we made any grave mistakes in our journey.
Remember when libgov spontaneously decided to outlaw =CR= traders flying through liberty (pushed mainly by shadow-logging LSF players, one of them being an admin), about a week after I joined =CR= and started trading on =CR= ships, and then libgov lifted the =CR= ban one day after I was banned from the server by admins for criticizing glorious team discovery on the forum?
I could give more examples, some longer ago and some more recent, but people really just need to read your and saronsen's replies here to know that guys with the attitude you display there have no idea how to use power responsibly.
Though a problem with this "staff supervision" is that many of the staff have no idea either, because they are as unable to acknowledge and deal with their own biases as some OFs or the people who are considered "iNteLligEnT enough to be in libgov" because they share the same biases.
The best shot to fix it would be 1: Write down concrete rules and guidelines for governments and official factions, better and more explicit than what we have now, so you get a rough idea how to be more responsible, and 2: Transparency in the debates. Give the voting and discussion channels of governments public read-only access.
The way =CR= stuff was handled by =LSF= was unsatisfactory in my personal opinion. Bu then Liberty Government had to deal with it inRP by not admitting any fault inRP. But I can assure you there was no discussion about you during the whole ordeal within LibGov. It was caused due to CR ships refusing to comply with lawfuls in space at the time, as every issue could have been solved via forum roleplay and diplomacy talks.
And I do not believe that you getting banned and allowing CR back to trade was relate. LibGob simply demanded apology by CR and they delivered. Whether you were in CR or not at such time made absolutely zero impact on decision. https://i.imgur.com/Ivolmaf.png
So please don't mix Liberty lawfuls playing on their own and LibGov doing their role. It's different factions, players, attitudes and guidelines.