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Offline Sombs
11-03-2023, 10:50 PM,
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(11-03-2023, 10:43 PM)Erremnart Wrote:
(11-03-2023, 10:22 PM)Sombs Wrote:
(11-03-2023, 09:58 PM)Erremnart Wrote:
(11-03-2023, 09:40 PM)Sombs Wrote:
(11-03-2023, 09:36 PM)Erremnart Wrote:
Outcasts and Corsairs operate differently from each other. There's no need for any kind of parity. Outcasts aren't building an empire, thus they have no need for bases further away from Malta. Bases they've lost around and in Omicron Alpha are consequences of their slavery they never truly needed (yes, Outcasts had no need for slaves for 800 years of their existence) combined with their quite considerable number of enemies who'd exploit any opening.

Weird how in the past slavery was one of the biggest deals, then, with the RP background being that the slaves provided the workforce the Outcasts couldn't produce themselves thanks to Cardamine reducing their fertility. But I guess that's just another thing that got retconned in 5.0.

Vanilla Outcasts weren't slavers - so, the slavery was a DIsco addition which means it was relatively short-lived practice from their perspective. Instead of retconning it, it was evolved and simply stopped being effective + also a huge security risk (slaves always rebel in the end - not a question of "if", but "when").

Given how rich they are, they can just buy robots to do the work for them instead.

So the solution was a slave uprising at the one place where slaves would be fully aware they would die if they left? They are already depending on Cardamine, sir.

I don't know, there are a lot of big questions about that entire story decision, considering everything that was established in vanilla and in 30 years of Discovery lore. But that, obviously, is in your hands now.

There wasn't any good option for those slaves - a small group of slaves rebelled on Albegna as they were to be exemplary executed, and killed Don Benitez instead. What would Outcast reaction be to all other slaves? Would they be decimated as a punishment? Outcasts are ruthless and petty, they wouldn't be nice to them. For many of slaves - they were already dead regardless of what they do, then perhaps they can have some revenge. They fought like cornered animals.

They simply had no guarantees that they'll be unharmed if they won't rebel. Obviously, not all slaves rebelled and some fought alongside their masters.

Planet Malta is a remarkable fortress with its vast and sophisticated planetary defenses, but not if it's sabotaged from within - something truly unthinkable for the Outcasts.

And yes, Outcasts weren't slavers in vanilla. There isn't a single mention of it.

True, the only mention of slavers was related to LPI, which lead to the entire slavery being a thing in Discovery, especially for Malta, because of the side-effect of Cardamine being the drastically reduced birth rates - something that was mentioned in vanilla. The Dons of Malta were involved in all kinds of black market activities, for example the import of Daumann weapons via Kreuzberg in Rheinland or the import from bretonian weapons via Trafalgar. While it wasn't a thing in vanilla, it was a quintessential thing in Discovery. But as it were, another case of new management, new lore.

Now we are looking at a slave rebellion of slaves that wanted to leave Malta so desperately that they forgot that they can barely survive without it, thanks to the Cardamine.




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Fix Cardamine - by |nfrared - 11-03-2023, 08:39 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Chenzo- - 11-03-2023, 08:47 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by LunaticOnTheGrass - 11-03-2023, 08:56 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Chenzo- - 11-03-2023, 09:25 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-03-2023, 09:36 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-03-2023, 09:40 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by The_Godslayer - 11-03-2023, 09:47 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-03-2023, 09:58 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Major. - 11-03-2023, 09:49 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by |nfrared - 11-03-2023, 10:01 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Major. - 11-03-2023, 10:02 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Avalanche - 11-04-2023, 01:21 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by TheSauron - 11-03-2023, 10:03 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by |nfrared - 11-03-2023, 10:07 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Demonic - 11-03-2023, 10:09 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-03-2023, 10:12 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-03-2023, 10:22 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Vulkhard Muller - 11-03-2023, 10:41 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-03-2023, 10:43 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by sasapinjic - 11-04-2023, 09:56 AM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Vulkhard Muller - 11-04-2023, 01:18 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Haste - 11-03-2023, 10:40 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-03-2023, 10:42 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-03-2023, 10:51 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Vulkhard Muller - 11-03-2023, 11:04 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-03-2023, 10:50 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-03-2023, 11:04 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by TheSauron - 11-03-2023, 10:52 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-03-2023, 11:03 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-03-2023, 11:08 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-03-2023, 11:11 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-03-2023, 11:13 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-04-2023, 01:35 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by jammi - 11-04-2023, 02:07 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-04-2023, 01:54 PM

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