(11-06-2023, 09:40 AM)Czechmate Wrote: Yeah tbh I am struggling with that one too - the shadow gov discord really has no power in the end, the real voting and discussions come in the official discord - it really is pointless to vote something in as then you have to both revote, and often also discuss with stuff what is reasonable and lore friendly - and then you'd need to bring it back, revote again and bring it to staff again for more voting and discussion.
It's probably better if the shadow gov is just a place/l for brainstorming/discussion of factions not represented without voting tbh
Quote, by the guy who pushed the "shadow gov"'s members out, and threatened to make other Discords about whatever, as ifs the solution here is a literal nightmare, for Gallia as well.
The previous government was better. I am sure. We were alone, not on the official Discord, and everything was confidential, until @Groshyr broke the common contract acknowledged and accepted by all members, by leaking, but leaks happen in every government: don't tell me you have not.
For all, I deny this. I refuse that this is the best you can do. You can change that rule, or rollback, or make a new one that would be closer to what we had in GalGov, but better (to avoid cases such as Groshyr leaking).
Was this a response from GalGov having @Darius, that remained as an observer because he was a representative that was stripped of his voting rights the very same moment and was branded "Suspended Member" in the Government, who could do NOTHING, and then me being accused of letting him doing whatever, while the RULES THEMSELVES states that GalGov representatives have zero moderation power, only access to the government part? Before I get thrown to my face the rules as if I didn't know them by heart by then?
What was the reason behind messing so hard with the SINGLE rule that was probably like this since a decade, this thread is a dumpster fire? There must be a real reason for messing up with the players who tried. At least as a price for it; GIVE US THE FULL INTENTION BEHIND THIS CHANGE OF RULE.
Our government worked, and it was after voting, we've had many votes, some were informal, some were unanimous - most importantly; they took in consideration not only the Unlawful and Quasilawful, but the unofficial factions (such as GMS|) this one, IT HAS TO PASS THROUGH MULTIPLE BUREAUCRACIES. And it's ONLY LEMON.
Now:
I believe I sent requests, nothing - I pinged members of the staff (and got muted because I pinged 4 at once because I was in an emergency situation and NEEDED mods ASAP), now I chose to ping nobody because I doubt they even care or would just mute me. I sent DMs to Admins. for questions - still get ignored despite the urgency. Thankfully, I managed myself, hardly. This is a telling of how bureaucratic or outright sleeping the Administration is. I wonder how it is for the Houses. When I was there, I could ping a member, hell, we had a moderator in the government to help us (thank you @Karst).
This all began after the end of my investiture. Enjoy the chaos. Fix it, now.
This thread made me remember how I like witnessing over-the-top arguments and would avoid to participate. Now, I gave my opinion, and what I demand.
@"Czechmate"
We can at least reintroduce the voting and reengage the government, by having you relay EVERYTHING; and us, represent each faction, 2 representatives, 1 vote per representative, 0.5 vote per unofficial representative.
(11-06-2023, 01:41 PM)Czechmate Wrote: [LN] will be OF soon, no worries.
I just hope staff are ready for the case where all OFLs go inactive in a house - they will literally have to make the replies themselves
My man, you're the only OFL "fit for governement" (ignore me, I'm apparently not, because i'm Quasilawful) for Gallia.
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