Version 5.0 "Fire and Fortune" - Everything I DISLIKED Part 1 - Balance and Stuff

[Dark Chocolate]

To be perfectly honest, the constant I see between the two missile examples are that you're isolated or overextended and heavily outnumbered, with your friendly support too far away to be of any help clearing your tail.

that is usual thing of disco.
real problem is ....The amount of Focus and Power Core you waste on avoiding missiles, leaves you with nothing to return fire or dodge in coming fire effectively cuz there is no effective counter to OP Missiles with CMs performing poorly + Low CM Ammo is extra topping on pizza.

On the other hand...A pilot who is using missiles, just need to Right Click and there you go...job is done.
it is "less effort vs Extreme effort"...RIP Balance

I agree with everything this chad has just said.

My point is, how would either of those two situations gone differently if they were mortars instead of missiles?

With the current rate of fire the mortars have which is like every 2.5 seconds and worse if opponent decides to chainfire, It barely makes any difference as there would be mortars flying to you from everywhere and since the kiting has been nerfed hard, There's little chance to fight back.

But if you are suggesting if it were something other than missiles and the goddamn rapidfire BS mortars, I'd probably have more chance of survival without my attention diverted to dodging 500 missiles with little counter play.

Gunboats are far too agile to hit with impacts

Yes but I was speaking about Cruiser loadouts. Should i really need to bother with putting Light Mortars over my cruiser just to fight GBs? When I can just roll with Cruiser Missiles+Impacts. I could use primaries to shoot GB when it is in range, And as you said Cruisers have more speed and can sit on GBs, If I manage to get too close I could even use impacts otherwise primaries fine. Thing is, the best combo on cruisers is Missiles+Impacts coz they beat basically every other setup. I'm saying may be Light mortar should have more use than to just be against missiles, which would happen if missiles are not so damn good at being artillery. I'm saying impact cannons are wayyyy too good. If they gonna have that high dps+efficiency, may be they shouldn't be firing 360.

Alright, I watched it. You got unlucky a couple times with missiles detonating at their max distance.

I get unlucky so money times I have lost count. It feels like every other time the missile will blow up in my face even when I dodge it well and I'd take max damage. Is it necessary for them to blow up like that? Can they go a bit far and explode? Please do watch other videos on same channel if you got time. Every battle after the patch is missile spam. I don't think it's good balance.

frankly missiles are *not* good cruiser v cruiser weapons.

And yet they work so well every time i use it against people. Or when people use it against me on when I'm on a cruiser. You are saying the counter play is enough yes?. I guess it's just skill issue then.

I will gladly conn that Hel on my own LSC to prove this. Equally if you want to play a quad devastator BC against a cruiser of mine, or other missile loadout, I will demonstrate missile dodging with that, too. You can't dodge every missile, but the vast majority are very much dodgeable. I'm currently uploading a duel of my own BC against Haste's cruiser, if you don't want to conn that, as another example, wherein I use a total of 90 marauders and he wins the duel with 30k health left.

See this is the problem. You guys are Aces. Especially you with an LSC like super ultra pro max Ace level. I'm just a regular everyday normal player. You'd dismantle me regardless of what setup you or me use. I suspect the playtesting being done for the balance is also between aces. Like, Is there anyone with like medium/normal/average skill level in the playtesting team? ... Moreover, Is playtesting done only in duels? Is there play testing done for fleet battles? Like 5 vs 5? Or atleast 3 vs 3? Or against uneven odds?

I don't know why it is so hard to prove it to you guys. But missiles are really a problem. A big problem. a lot of other things are. But then again, It's just my opinion. If balancers think it's fine, I guess We folks just have to live with it. or play something else lmao. It's sad tho. I love this game and I don't want to quit it. I wish these issues are fixed.