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PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0

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PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0
Offline Wesker
12-08-2023, 12:00 AM,
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Alright, so I've been playing for a while since the release of 5.0. There are a couple of things that I love and a couple of things that infuriate me to the moon. The topic I am about to discuss doesn't fall on either end of the spectrum. Normally, I would just take this straight to the balance developers. I find that they usually at least hear me out on this since I have a good amount of experience and fly fighters regularly. This, however, I think requires more of a unanimous consensus. Mostly because this is something that people are fearful of reverting back due to hardware differences among players or whatever the case may be.

Snub weapon arcs were reduced greatly to counteract people who had wider displays and level the playing field. At first when I heard this I thought "whatever doesn't make a difference to me at all". I played for a while, things didn't really bother me or make a difference that much for the most part. In general, this doesn't really hinder players who favor higher refire weapons or players who prefer to joust. If anything it makes it easier since you save powercore.

For players who prefer to use heavy weapons however, this becomes a real problem.

I noticed this at first using my irezumi, in general, the balance team has stated that they don't want pvp to be 1 dimensional. They do NOT favor a game where turning and out-maneuvering is the only option, but they also do NOT favor a game where jousting and boxing is the only option either. The entire essence behind heavy weapons is that they command respect from your opponent, you cannot sit and box and fly head-on with heavy weapons. Now that minirazors are more or less neutered, you need to be able to turn and fly properly to connect multiple consecutive heavy weapon shots. The muzzle cone weapon arcs make this extremely difficult in particular when you utilize these weapons. It makes it nearly impractical unless you have a lot of experience flying. In general, I think if I consider something impractical for myself or Haste, I consider it stupid for the average player to humor the general idea of utilizing that weapon/ship. This also leaves out the whole concept of ships that are designed to rely on maneuverability vs ships that are designed to fight head-on.

You can kind've see what I'm talking about first hand below, I sound like I'm complaining. It's not the end of the world, but I do think it's really dumb. (Also just chatting in discord lol)



It's just silly to me at this point. I understand the phobia behind why this was changed, but I'd still rather deal with some clown utilizing an IMAX theatre display and lose once or twice than have several ships and setups permanently neutered because of this change. You have to consider how this affects all fighters in the long run too, bombers right now absolutely trivialize fighters. If you force fighters to fight more head-on, even with a nerf to strafe force - the end result is the bomber likely winning.

I thought at first with the changes to gun speed it would fix the issue, but the issue persists in my opinion. I think either the balance team should consider amping the arcs of heavy weapons or just reverting the change altogether.

You could ALSO consider giving VHFs the same treatment the defender has with the obnoxious camera angle, that might help the issue - but I'm not sure.

tl;dr read poll.

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PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Wesker - 12-08-2023, 12:00 AM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by -Revenant- - 12-08-2023, 12:13 AM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Haste - 12-08-2023, 12:16 AM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by -Rax- - 12-08-2023, 08:56 AM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Saronsen - 12-08-2023, 12:18 AM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Megaera - 12-08-2023, 12:36 AM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Culbrelai - 12-08-2023, 01:51 AM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Lemon - 12-08-2023, 12:04 PM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Prysin - 12-08-2023, 12:41 PM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Lemon - 12-08-2023, 07:29 PM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Wesker - 12-08-2023, 09:17 PM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Nika - 12-08-2023, 12:25 PM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by L1ght - 12-08-2023, 12:25 PM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Lythrilux - 12-08-2023, 12:27 PM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Chenzo- - 12-08-2023, 06:59 PM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by MrKatz - 12-08-2023, 07:15 PM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by The_Godslayer - 12-08-2023, 07:32 PM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Emperor Tekagi - 12-08-2023, 07:35 PM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Chuba - 12-08-2023, 07:56 PM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by L1ght - 12-08-2023, 09:41 PM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by pillow - 12-13-2023, 08:37 PM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Oggdo Bogdo - 12-14-2023, 05:51 AM
RE: PETITION: Snub Weapon arcs to return pre-5.0 - by Prysin - 12-13-2023, 10:21 PM

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