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Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things
Offline JadeTornado
03-29-2024, 10:39 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-29-2024, 11:14 PM by JadeTornado.)
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(03-29-2024, 06:45 PM)Antonio Wrote:
@"0xCosmin" @Dark Chocolate @Sarwar Perhaps my description was a bit misleading, let me clarify.

I can see the reasons why some of these changes were done, but I can agree with them only partially. Some things I would do differently. But judging by the video, I would say we have to wait a bit and see it in-game before crossing out cruisers. It will be played differently, no doubt, but still playable, especially with a lot of room for adjustments.

The thing I'm worried about right now is the lack of information. As a caps beginner, sometimes I have no clue where to look for certain information, and it appears to be some post on the 11th page of some Dev's diary. It should be presented in-game in my opinion. For example, I would suggest to describe this: "There will be cruisers with more emphasis on a certain playstyle" as a part of the description of the ship's model, so a potential newbie would know what he's about to buy and what playstyle by-default would be the most effective/easiest to recreate on said ship. Of course it doesn't mean we should limit uniqueness in ships and different strategies in each of them. Right now, I have no other option than to buy each of them and learn in practice. Good thing that @Antonio is going to make us some guides, but many people can't figure out even the basics, to which we have no guides as well, unlike the ones for snub PVP (even if they are outdated). I can only recall @Levenna's guide for Lib cruiser (also outdated). That's disappointing and I will be glad to help with this to the best of my knowledge.

(03-29-2024, 06:59 PM)Czechmate Wrote: Dumb question - why balance cruisers around duels at all? Same for BCs - who even duels these in real game anymore?

I think it's because even in fleet battles you have mini-duels all the time against different ship classes, until someone makes a mistake and gets ganked. So making balance around 1v1s makes sense. Also you won't need or feel any kind of balance "in real game" when you catch a single ship of any class with 3 ships of any classes, with the exception of the heaviest capitals vs fighters, I guess. So why bother?

(03-29-2024, 07:08 PM)Uknown Wrote: "When executed properly" ...

While you are right, I am convinced that the lack of information is the main problem in what you are describing. Not every player is able to understand the importance of "ship shape, and differences in other specialities, plus the loadout", despite the fact he may be playing the game for like 5+ years. False-positive conclusions when they try cheesy loadouts, and etc. I faced that a lot during my tournament. So just dropping an ideal balance/features won't help as much as you might expect it to help.
If you think I am some kind of boss, I'll tell you I never aim for components. Even in a battle of BCs, which is realatively slow, the time I need to switch between components, or lock into components of another ship, is just too high. I lose my awareness, the timings of turns, dodge poorly, my turrets are turning the wrong direction during that. God forbid you to miss the right component and start either clicking everything, or switching by the "next" button manually or with the help of a hotkey. Yes, you can auto-win by destroying two components of a BC even if you have less health, but overall I don't think it's a good feature. It's not "executed properly" by me, but if I still have a good chance to win - it's fine. 3% hull on the video is good enough.

(01-01-2024, 12:15 PM)Ravenna Nagash Wrote: In a live role playing environment, you are not owed or mandated to be given a duel. Fights develop differently every time and people have varying degree of time to log on their hands or have their own plans.

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Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Antonio - 03-28-2024, 09:37 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by TheSauron - 03-28-2024, 09:44 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Emperor Tekagi - 03-28-2024, 09:48 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Kauket - 03-28-2024, 09:58 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by TheKusari - 03-28-2024, 09:56 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Sombs - 03-28-2024, 09:58 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Antonio - 03-28-2024, 10:54 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Karst - 03-28-2024, 10:01 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Penthrite - 03-28-2024, 10:01 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by TheKusari - 03-28-2024, 10:02 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Lusitano - 03-28-2024, 11:23 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by LuckyOne - 03-28-2024, 11:26 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Antonio - 03-31-2024, 07:39 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Kherty - 03-28-2024, 11:42 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by L1ght - 03-28-2024, 11:52 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Kanzler Niemann - 03-28-2024, 11:58 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Geno - 03-29-2024, 12:05 AM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Lemon - 03-29-2024, 12:23 AM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by StellarViss - 03-29-2024, 12:34 AM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Uknown - 03-29-2024, 02:04 AM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Richi - 03-29-2024, 03:28 AM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by DTR-El.Sosten - 03-29-2024, 10:08 AM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Couden - 03-29-2024, 11:03 AM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by DTR-El.Sosten - 03-29-2024, 01:37 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Kauket - 03-29-2024, 11:10 AM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Red - 03-29-2024, 02:23 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Dark Chocolate - 03-29-2024, 04:24 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Skeptic Jester - 03-29-2024, 04:31 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Sarwar - 03-29-2024, 06:15 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Antonio - 03-29-2024, 06:45 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Uknown - 03-29-2024, 07:08 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Uknown - 03-29-2024, 06:55 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Lemon - 03-29-2024, 06:59 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Haste - 03-29-2024, 11:59 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by JadeTornado - 03-29-2024, 10:39 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Lord Chaos - 03-31-2024, 11:29 PM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Busy Miner - 04-03-2024, 07:27 AM
RE: Discovery 5.1 Dev Diary #3 - More System Changes & Other Things - by Chronicron - 05-01-2024, 03:21 AM

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