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Revert cruiser slot changes to 5.0
24.24%
16 24.24%
Keep them as they are (5.1)
54.55%
36 54.55%
Allow 5.0 and new 360 guns to be placed in any heavy slot (A mix of both)
21.21%
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Revert cruiser slots changes
Offline Haste
06-02-2024, 07:25 PM,
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(06-02-2024, 06:23 PM)Levenna Wrote:
(06-02-2024, 01:46 PM)Fab Wrote: for now there hasn't been any counterpoints so far.

Okay, very well, I'll answer your question with a question. Why is being able to sit behind, for example, a gunboat, and click it away with 4 storm cannons without any further depth or interactivity than that a good and healthy balance state?

To play devil's advocate, the main change in 5.1 is that Gunboats now thrust very slightly faster on average than Cruisers, rather than very slightly slower. I could easily argue that the gun split is not needed to fix this matchup.

The split primarily just adds an extra bit of decision-making and depth. Your best turrets function when you're exposing your weaker side, and their limited range makes it so that max-range kiting requires your to use your frontal heavies, which cannot fire straight backwards. Both of these things together make a lot of different matchups about a lot more than "point ship at/away from enemy ship, right click". Obviously small-scale brawls against snubs, gunboats and cruisers are the most affected. I'd also note that "snubs, gunboats and cruisers" are the majority of combat classes in the game.

But all in all, I am not at all opposed to feedback and threads like these are fine. I was thinking of setting some up a week or so after the patch to see how people feel about the various things 5.1 changes, which classes feel strong, which feel weak, etc. The issue with this thread is that it hasn't actually been a weak and it was instead made based on virtually zero play-time on the new patch. I don't know what valuable feedback I could glean from "In dislike this change in theory".

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Messages In This Thread
Revert cruiser slots changes - by Fab - 06-01-2024, 08:29 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Levenna - 06-01-2024, 08:40 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by monmarfori - 06-01-2024, 08:40 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by JadeTornado - 06-01-2024, 08:42 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Haste - 06-01-2024, 08:48 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Fab - 06-01-2024, 10:40 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Levenna - 06-02-2024, 12:28 AM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Harcourt Fenton Mudd - 12-31-2024, 09:47 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Arbs - 06-02-2024, 11:02 AM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Fab - 06-02-2024, 01:46 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Chxlls - 06-02-2024, 06:44 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Levenna - 06-02-2024, 06:23 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Haste - 06-02-2024, 07:25 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Australopithecus - 06-02-2024, 07:45 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Schxer - 06-02-2024, 08:08 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by L1ght - 06-02-2024, 09:07 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Spectre - 06-02-2024, 08:16 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Australopithecus - 06-02-2024, 08:26 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Jayce - 06-02-2024, 09:06 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Australopithecus - 06-02-2024, 09:52 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by pillow - 06-02-2024, 09:22 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Australopithecus - 06-02-2024, 10:22 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Schxer - 06-02-2024, 10:22 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Antonio - 06-03-2024, 09:20 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Traxit - 06-02-2024, 11:19 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Haste - 06-02-2024, 11:27 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by JadeTornado - 06-03-2024, 12:57 AM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Haste - 06-03-2024, 01:20 AM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by JadeTornado - 06-03-2024, 01:33 AM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Fab - 06-03-2024, 01:43 AM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Fab - 06-03-2024, 01:08 AM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Corvo Gotti - 06-03-2024, 09:29 AM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Akhetaten - 06-03-2024, 11:07 AM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Lemon - 06-03-2024, 09:32 AM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Shimamori - 06-03-2024, 10:12 AM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Dark Chocolate - 06-03-2024, 11:02 AM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Haste - 06-03-2024, 11:12 AM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Shimamori - 06-03-2024, 01:01 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Lusitano - 06-03-2024, 12:35 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Nepotu - 06-03-2024, 01:15 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Shimamori - 06-03-2024, 01:30 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Australopithecus - 06-03-2024, 01:39 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Darius - 06-03-2024, 01:35 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Corvo Gotti - 06-03-2024, 01:37 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Akhetaten - 06-03-2024, 08:24 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Fab - 06-03-2024, 01:46 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Nika - 12-31-2024, 10:33 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Harcourt Fenton Mudd - 01-02-2025, 10:27 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Harcourt Fenton Mudd - 01-16-2025, 10:25 PM
RE: Revert cruiser slots changes - by Chenzo- - 01-16-2025, 10:50 PM

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