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Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback
Offline Eternal.Journey
11-06-2024, 04:29 PM,
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Lemme address the uh "Not Balanced" Quote, here, first:

(11-06-2024, 09:36 AM)Kauket Wrote: WhaT are you smoking, the fight wasn't even to start with lol

Dtr did bring waaay too many caps tho

1x Persephone, 1x Aux Bustard, 2x Militants Cruisers, 1x Aux GB, 1x FL GB, 4x Aux snubs, 1x FL snub. Before DTR showed up, these were the Humanity side of the fight, that i was able to track. Total: 4 caps, 2 GB, 5 snubs.
1x Ish'tar, 1x Bustard, 1x Cruiser, 4x GB, 5x Snubs. Total: 3 caps, 4 GB, 5 snubs.

That to me sounds about as even as you can get. (Correct my numbers here if you want, there may be one or two not accounted for.)

For Reference the two images below are 9 ships (one is a bomber) shooting at 2 VHF:



This is a horrible experience to give someone. Instead of pulling out, like the remaining Aux, the FL snub and One DTR Cruiser that didn't even join the "Fight" did (Shoutout to you, Divine Shield for sitting out, kudos to you), you let loose your big ships onto two fighters.

In the Screenshots above (after most of our snub force left to grab caps to actually have some semblance of a fun fight) we can see that 5 DTR decided they would drop a force of capitals on two lone snubs. I would address the uh, previous 1v8 but that's had enough attention both here and in Discord.
(the above screenshots shows that the same ships that blew up our Bustard moved in on the snubcraft afterwards. The Militant Cruiser pulled out of the snub beating. Kudos to you, whoever you are, for that.)

Below is, in my opinion, the biggest issue DTR has.

Criticism: No effort or intent for DTR to play fair.

Explanation of Criticism: This is a regular occurrence. not once, not twice, not even like once a month. This is getting to like. every week, sometimes numerous times a week. How long has it been happening? Well, since before i joined. 5 days into my discovery Journey, I happened to experience my first time of this. 2v3 in Delta, 2 nomad snubs vs 2 snubs and a freighter. Was a fun fight, became friends with two of the ones involved in that. This fight, after it was already decided (We 2 aliens were losing, big skill issue on my part), was greeted by TEN DTR Capital warships. Assorted Cruisers, BC and BSes (mostly cruisers cause 5.0 was Busted Cruiser Patch lol). Since that day, I have seen much of the same with you guys. Alotta the time I take myself away from combat to avoid the sheer overlog that keeps happening.

Recently, DTR E-Chat has been pinged for numerous separate encounters. A Lone Bomber in Theta, Lone Cruisers in Theta (separate instances of singular ships), Lone whatever, in Omicrons where people seem to think someone is coming for them. On each and every one of these encounters, DTR logged masses of ships. Theres Video proof, and many numerous screenshots of DTR not being sportsmanlike throughout the months, at least that I have seen posted from various sources who had the "Joy" of fighting these hopeless scenarios.

Several conversations with both HC and members in Discord, in mostly neutral manners have turned up some bleak results. The latest being Insults thrown my way, and in the direction of friends. These people know who they are, and know I have shared some of these postings with others, alongside the conversations I have had before. There's Quite physically no words to describe how the words struck a very hostile cord in me, because of the Real Life difficulties I play with these pixels to escape. Humphress is the only one who I talked with who actually felt like my criticisms were understood and accepted as needing to be worked on. Kudos to you, Humphress.

Solution: Curb the dumping of caps onto snubs for a start. That's not fun for the snubs at all. It hurts your Reputation. Whether this is the 2 snub vs 8 caps +1 bomber in Delta, or a 1 bomber vs 1 bomber, 1 freighter and 1gb in Theta, or snub brawl of 9 + 1gb v 8 + 3 gbs + 3 Battlecruisers and 1 Legate in Omega 48, or a small 2v3 thats already decided, gaining 10 caps that have zero right or place to be involved. Fix this, before you lose what remaining respect some people outside of DTR still hold for you. This is non-negotiable. Its genuinely not fun for the snubbers involved, no mater what skill they have, be they a Novice or an Ace.

This is your biggest fault as a faction. Fix that, and I'm sure the community will start to respect you a good bit more because of it. If you don't change it, you will quickly find that the hate will mature and grow into a vendetta, so much so that more and more will either actively log in organised fights against you, or not bother playing at all near you. Its already showing. Many people have both said and done as much already. I know what Ravenna has said about overlogging, and that was probably fine while the server population daily was higher but in todays player count, its going to kill the game. I would go into more detail on this too, but I think it best to address one major issue at a time. That way, it gives you more chance to change and react on your own, based off what is clearly growing server-wide concerns.

Hopefully this helps you to understand, and I also hope this constructive rant will be responded with equally constructive return posts about said criticisms.
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Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Deterrence's Conclave - 12-01-2021, 06:24 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by 27. Angriffsstaffel - 03-24-2022, 08:11 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by DTR-Sunset - 03-25-2022, 01:11 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Kauket - 03-25-2022, 02:03 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by DTR-Sunset - 03-25-2022, 02:05 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by 27. Angriffsstaffel - 03-25-2022, 05:47 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 03-25-2022, 09:38 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Groshyr - 03-25-2022, 02:06 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Arcana - 03-25-2022, 02:13 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Kauket - 03-25-2022, 02:18 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by vladimir26 - 03-25-2022, 02:25 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by xenomorph - 03-25-2022, 02:48 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Karlotta - 03-25-2022, 04:47 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Oprixy - 03-25-2022, 02:31 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Trade Convoy Logistical - 04-07-2022, 01:22 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 04-07-2022, 02:25 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by vladimir26 - 04-07-2022, 02:51 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Dimitrius - 05-08-2022, 08:29 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Hunter_Steel - 05-08-2022, 09:12 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Fab - 05-08-2022, 09:21 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Xithon - 06-06-2022, 08:16 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 06-07-2022, 05:23 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Xithon - 06-07-2022, 09:37 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Festus McBoyle - 11-13-2022, 12:55 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 11-20-2022, 11:19 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Couden - 12-01-2022, 10:08 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Creutzfeuer - 12-01-2022, 10:23 PM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Shiloh - 12-01-2022, 10:47 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 12-01-2022, 11:46 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Couden - 12-02-2022, 12:28 AM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Binski - 12-02-2022, 08:25 AM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Lemon - 12-02-2022, 09:21 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Binski - 12-02-2022, 11:14 AM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Lemon - 12-02-2022, 09:33 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Darius - 12-02-2022, 09:38 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by sindroms - 12-02-2022, 09:39 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Lemon - 12-02-2022, 09:44 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 12-02-2022, 03:48 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Sombs - 12-02-2022, 06:19 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Megaera - 12-02-2022, 08:22 PM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Groshyr - 12-03-2022, 04:00 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Kronstadt - 12-03-2022, 07:17 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Sally - 09-11-2023, 07:53 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by vladimir26 - 09-11-2023, 09:04 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Implosion - 10-07-2023, 09:59 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by 9th.Legion - 10-07-2023, 10:24 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Culbrelai - 10-07-2023, 10:15 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Couden - 10-07-2023, 11:09 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by vladimir26 - 10-07-2023, 10:17 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Implosion - 10-07-2023, 10:27 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by vladimir26 - 10-07-2023, 10:53 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Implosion - 10-07-2023, 11:17 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by LuckyOne - 10-07-2023, 11:31 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by vladimir26 - 10-07-2023, 11:38 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Implosion - 10-08-2023, 12:04 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Omicron - 10-07-2023, 11:42 PM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 10-08-2023, 11:06 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 10-08-2023, 11:18 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Couden - 11-28-2023, 07:37 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Couden - 02-08-2024, 05:18 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Derpcopter - 11-28-2023, 07:43 PM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by 9th.Legion - 11-28-2023, 08:02 PM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Lemon - 11-28-2023, 08:03 PM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Lusitano - 11-28-2023, 08:28 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by JadeTornado - 12-31-2023, 08:24 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 01-01-2024, 12:15 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Elvinos2003 - 01-10-2024, 11:29 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by ceu - 01-11-2024, 12:33 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Elvinos2003 - 01-11-2024, 12:45 AM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Culbrelai - 03-15-2024, 10:15 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Dark Chocolate - 05-30-2024, 08:18 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Shelco - 09-02-2024, 09:10 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Sloths - 09-02-2024, 11:54 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Nepotu - 11-05-2024, 10:39 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Seapanda - 11-05-2024, 11:44 PM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Culbrelai - 11-06-2024, 01:21 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Fab - 11-06-2024, 02:36 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Nepotu - 11-06-2024, 09:35 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Kauket - 11-06-2024, 09:36 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Arcana - 11-06-2024, 09:46 AM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by ElGatito - 11-06-2024, 04:16 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Mort - 11-06-2024, 04:00 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Eternal.Journey - 11-06-2024, 04:29 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Antonio - 11-06-2024, 05:04 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Fab - 11-06-2024, 06:21 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by iiLeRoss - 11-06-2024, 06:34 PM
Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by HUMPHRESS - 11-06-2024, 05:22 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Chxlls - 11-06-2024, 05:44 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by monmarfori - 11-06-2024, 05:51 PM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by EisenSeele - 11-06-2024, 07:53 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by EisenSeele - 11-07-2024, 12:39 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Hawksmoor - 11-07-2024, 03:20 AM
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