Economy in 5.2+

[Enko]

Well.

You can base a route from Denver or Deshima/Tsukishima, that's where you'd be selling whatever you brought, presumably, and depending on which direction you're going (almost certainly south), you'd be at a disadvantage when buying in one of the directions. Ionic isn't even far from the field; it's basically mindistance from the gate, which itself is ~30k or whatever from the field.

But really, the math is simpler than that. Numining plat takes a lot longer than oldmining, obviously. Regardless of where your base is. The base price is also higher than old mining, but it isn't enough higher, unlike Gold. If you consider 80cu a reasonable rate for oldmining, and you pay 150cu for numining plat which is pretty close to the highest amount you can pay, you're paying less than before. Because it definitely takes longer than 187% of the old mining time. If you're then selling the ore for 110, which would be reasonable, your base isn't getting (much) more than before, and the shippers also aren't getting any more than like, a 70cu oldmining route like Copper or Molybdenum.

It's just more work for less money.

What is wild about it is that you're suggesting that 2.5mil per hour is too little. But still:

Numining Hegemons take about 18min for a 3.0x ID with Gold, about 50% of this is actual mining. I've done mining in 8 minutes no problem, but assume 9 is a good average for 50/50 and being a bit slower. Thats 9 mining, 9 travel.

3.33 trips per hour, that is 16,650 ore per hour delivered. 16,650 x 154 (current price on Lisheen) is 2,564,100.

Base price of gold is $60.
Old base price of gold was $30. (Verified by checking old HRCs such as Niobium).

Let's assume that the claims made by other people here are accurate and a hegemon is filled in 5m, I assume they are using an ID that is 3.0x as well so it's not skewed in favour, so we'll claim its like for like.

5 min mining + 9 min travel = 14 min. This makes 4.28 trips per hour, at 21,400 ore delivered. If valued at 80, as you say, that is 1,712,000 credits per hour. Infact you would have to pay miners 117c per ore to break past 2.5mil per hour mark.

It gets worse.

16,650 ore in NuMining is 31,341 Gold HRC with a total of 39.17 runs of the recipe. This is because 425 ore = 800 HRC.

21,400 in Old Mining is 30,211 Gold GRC, with a total of 50.35 runs of the recipe. This is because 425 ore = 600 HRC here.

The end result is that, you get less gold, valued less, paid for less, and the 11 or so more runs of the recipe (On Lisheen this is about 100k) = more cost in IMs/Mox, and more time spent resupplying the base which is also a factor.

So why is it worse?

I also would ask for anyone to provide a video of their fastest old mining times solo with a hegemon, with their ID also shown.

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