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Offline sovereign
08-06-2008, 05:28 AM,
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' Wrote:Why Liberty lets any mercs with unlawful kit float in their orbit doing their bidding, or any lawful looks at a guy in a BH ship and reckons he's good to go is beyond me.


Most of the LPI are of the usually justified opinion that unlawful kit -> gtfo, drop it, or die. It implies some friendliness with our foes more often than not, and is not tolerated.

Now to address this:

Quote:By this example, it means that our dealings with the Benitez family only go so far. When mounting their generously provided munitions, we don't start marching in a line shouting, "Mi vida por Benitez!". We gave the Benitez family something in return for munitions. Therefor I don't think that our contract agenda should be limited because of this.

I'm going to emphasize the "we gave the Benitez family something in return". Corsairs are enemies of Liberty, in the context of your RL analogy, that's like this:

Mercs go up to US employment office. People notice the AK-47s. People ask "Who'd you buy those from?" Mercs answer "Al-Queda". "So, you gave money to Al-Queda." "Yeah."

Hopefully I don't need to go further with this line of reasoning.

Quote:Now, Nomad weaponry might be a little different, and OC stuff might by some stretch of the imagination have cardamine particles on the equipment and when we got aboard a bit got into our system and caused a mild addiction which would then break out into a total addiction. The following would result in heavy dealings with the Outcasts. But given Corsair weapons and the fair trade between ourselves and the Benitez family, unless the weapons are made out of Artifacts, I don't see any reason for Lawful Liberty forces to clash with our equipment.

Now that I think I successfully circumnavigated my point and repeated myself about four times. I think I'm done...

P.S. Order equipment I might understand that Liberty would dislike, but equipment from the enemies of your enemies (Rogues, OCs, Hackers) though still "unlawful" should be about on the same level as Rheinland equipment (on Mercs) at the moment. Wary, but not all out refusal of operations within Liberty space. It's just a weapons deal. It doesn't brainwash us.

Corsairs are allied to the Order, and Liberty knows it. The two fight alongside in Alaska, and it gets right next to helping the Order or the Outcasts- its treason by any sense of the word.

Does this make sense?




Note, I'm not trying to rip on you guys here- I'm trying to help, and I know firsthand how tough it is to maximize a mercenary group's client pool while not being helpless in PvP- see the Darkside proposal. Removing the unlawful kit (OC thrusters, del Cids, stuff like that) will allow you to work for lawfuls without complaint, and removing the lawful kit (BH weapons/ships) will allow you to work for the unlawfuls without complaint... well, provided you don't try to do jobs for the Outcasts with tizzies and the other such enemy gear. Darkside is working with solid neutral gear until negotiations get worked out to figure out from the mouth of the lion what each client is okay with us using. Raven's Talon with Flashpoints/Furies, Imp Debbies, and possibly codes isn't a bad loadout, far from it, and the Preagle isn't so utterly horrific that its unusable. (That's the Waran). If that isn't good enough, having a few somewhat isolated groups might work, such as buying Falcatas to do jobs for the Outcasts but switching to the group with BH bombers to do jobs for the lawfuls.

Hope that helps.

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Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Slavik - 08-03-2008, 06:49 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by sovereign - 08-04-2008, 09:27 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Hawk - 08-04-2008, 09:32 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Dusty Lens - 08-04-2008, 09:35 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by kingvaillant - 08-04-2008, 09:43 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by McNeo - 08-04-2008, 09:44 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Dusty Lens - 08-04-2008, 09:49 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by McNeo - 08-04-2008, 09:51 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by frozen - 08-04-2008, 09:59 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Slavik - 08-05-2008, 12:39 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by roadrunner - 08-05-2008, 04:42 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by sn!p3r - 08-05-2008, 04:46 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by bluntpencil2001 - 08-05-2008, 05:21 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by tfmachad - 08-05-2008, 05:29 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by roadrunner - 08-05-2008, 05:30 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Slavik - 08-05-2008, 05:32 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by tfmachad - 08-05-2008, 05:48 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by roadrunner - 08-05-2008, 06:22 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by tfmachad - 08-05-2008, 06:53 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by sovereign - 08-05-2008, 08:09 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Magoo! - 08-05-2008, 08:43 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by chopper - 08-05-2008, 08:57 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by roadrunner - 08-05-2008, 09:39 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Slavik - 08-05-2008, 10:34 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by roadrunner - 08-05-2008, 11:32 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by outlawman - 08-05-2008, 11:52 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Shimmer - 08-06-2008, 12:41 AM
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Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Dusty Lens - 08-06-2008, 04:52 AM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by sovereign - 08-06-2008, 05:28 AM
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Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Magoo! - 08-07-2008, 12:20 AM
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Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by chopper - 08-07-2008, 11:20 AM
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Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by chopper - 08-07-2008, 11:43 AM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by pipsqueak - 08-07-2008, 11:48 AM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Dusty Lens - 08-07-2008, 11:51 AM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Magoo! - 08-07-2008, 08:56 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Jinx - 08-07-2008, 10:22 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Slavik - 08-09-2008, 12:42 AM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Muleo - 08-09-2008, 01:22 AM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Shimmer - 08-09-2008, 05:36 AM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Slavik - 08-09-2008, 01:08 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Muleo - 08-09-2008, 01:40 PM
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Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Fletcher - 08-17-2008, 12:36 AM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Shimmer - 08-17-2008, 01:41 AM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by chopper - 08-17-2008, 02:04 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Slavik - 08-17-2008, 02:35 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by Shimmer - 08-17-2008, 02:59 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by roadrunner - 08-17-2008, 03:00 PM
Jupiterguild Faction Feedback post - by roadrunner - 08-17-2008, 03:05 PM
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