5.2.0.9

[L1ght]

This argument that "it makes things easier for bad players to aim" isn't a valid one.

What makes it not valid? I wouldn't exactly say I'm bad, but I'm no 'ace' either. On a good day I'm above average. These changes to me really bridge the gap and make PvP feel a lot less hopeless. I don't want to be forced to play missiles if it's my only option for dealing meaningful DPS.

Aside from that, most people learn the game from going to conn for DUELS. Group brawls happen far less frequently than going to conn and pinging the discord. The idea that you will make brawls more accessible by making duels more inaccessible is also entirely counterproductive. There are already lower level players who have tried the changes complaining in discord about the changes screwing up their muscle memory.

My counterpoint to this is that grinding in conn for hours in duels is just simply not fun. And I think most people can also agree with that. Duels outside of conn is unrealistic. In my time back I've only had a single one verses a gazillion group engagements.

The mass change don't bridge the gap at all, considering changing vectors is much slower and clunky, you will be out turned and circled around more than before while also being HIT more because the increase of mass slows down acceleration, reverse, strafes all of it. This change just makes ships overall feel like garbage and it was not needed at all, what's worse is Freelance / Discovery had 20k strafe force for 20 years and it was NEVER an issue, until patch 5.1 hit where it got reduced to 15k and we were told "because of caps not hitting snubs" which is fair and we stomached it cus it did not impact ships feeling sluggish as mass does. Recently we asked for a revert to 20k because cap guns are 3000ms now and if we are going to be hit, might as well make ships fly/feel way better and what we got is @Haste practically shutting down @HonourWolf s change/proposal to revert back to 20k strafe and he went ahead and added mass just to add salt to injury (lol). We tested the change in good fait, majority of us were very vocal about how it makes flying feel worse which is practically why we all fly snubs in the first place, we like the FLYING part. The event we did yesterday felt miserable everyone in Cipher was complaining about ship feels to the point some even wanted to just not fly the event at all.

Regardless, the mass change is clearly a very bad change and ofc badly received by majority of the snub players ( shock to no one) and should just be reverted. It's not really that complicated.

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