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Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback
Offline Ravenna Nagash
04-30-2025, 06:12 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-30-2025, 06:15 AM by Ravenna Nagash.)
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(04-30-2025, 02:12 AM)EisenSeele Wrote: at no point did you 'ask staff' (someone from the moderation or administration team)

Developers are part of the Staff team. In my 4 years here and as someone who also was part of the Staff team (as a non-mod/admin), I've never ever heard that only mods and admins are part of Staff and the rest are not. Maybe it's mentioned somewhere but I've genuinely not seen this.

(04-30-2025, 02:12 AM)EisenSeele Wrote: in a very roundabout hypothetical sort of manner and he gave you a noncommital non-answer

I could have not been more explicit with my questions and the answer that I received was absolutely clear cut and everyone else understood it exactly the same way as I did including other members of Staff when I showed the screens to them. There was nothing vague about my descriptions and I fully explained everything in detail. If I was on the other position and I wasn't sure, I would have simply suggested to the person to go to speak to Kai and sort it out with him. There's an implicit power relationship here. As you are fully aware, following this incident, everything is double, sometimes tripled checked now with you.

(04-30-2025, 02:12 AM)EisenSeele Wrote: We decided to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that everything was done in good faith, or rather, not done in bad enough faith to constitute anything more than a warning - this was communicated in DTR chat, and we received what we believed was indication that you understood, but it seems as though we've regressed somewhat from that.

There is no regression. I am discussing the method, not the conclusion. I was simply after interesting RP. Your argument was that my RP was too powerful and it would destroy the two factions in question. I have absolutely no problem with this ruling and I accept that the RP can be removed under that premise. People can say whatever they want about me and that's fine but claiming that I tried to run two factions into the ground is just melodramatic in my view. My goal has never been to destroy people or their factions ever - back when was I active and definitely not now that I am retired. There's no logical justification to want to. There's barely any people playing, who would want even less?

(04-30-2025, 02:12 AM)EisenSeele Wrote: there is no other faction in the situation of needing help as much as DTR does right now.

So long as DTR continues to focus on new players, onboarding, retaining, etc. - this would always be the case by design.

(04-30-2025, 02:12 AM)EisenSeele Wrote: There's a lot of misunderstanding and bad faith here - but I still hold out the hope that one day people will click and we can just go back to playing and having fun together. I've personally learned a lot during our work with trying to accomplish this, and there's much that I would have done differently knowing what I know now. But in any case, ALL of you need to start putting in more effort into giving one another the benefit of the doubt and trying to restore some good faith back into this community. Doubling down, getting defensive, and trying to gaslight everyone into believing you've done nothing wrong and are the recipient of unjustified troubles will get you nowhere in this game - or life.

I absolutely agree with this statement. This server has like what - 20 people on average? On a legit big sandbox, plenty of things to do and generally with the exception of sieges, you lose absolutely nothing when losing fights. The current leadership of DTR is also taking rules extremely seriously, which I think as also a member of DTR, you can see for yourself. If you think there's something in our guides that can be improved, please by all means let me know and I will facilitate. I also empathize with Staff in general. Being the mediator is never easy.

(04-30-2025, 02:12 AM)EisenSeele Wrote: I genuinely believe that there were things I could have done differently with facilitating communication between people so that killing and dying is fun but not personal, and people could collaborate to tell fun stories together. In that regard, I have not done a good job - and I'm starting to think that I don't really have the capacity to serve that function in a way that will fix things - for that, I am sorry.

I don't agree with every Staff decision but I've said this many times - I personally think that on the whole the current Staff team is doing their best with the skills/tools that they have. Being in management and in charge sucks and it's a tough often ungrateful job.

Overall, I hope everyone cools down over time and just try to enjoy their game. If anyone has a problem with something, please feel free to reach out over discord. Enjoy your week.

Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties.
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Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Deterrence's Conclave - 12-01-2021, 06:24 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by 27. Angriffsstaffel - 03-24-2022, 08:11 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by DTR-Sunset - 03-25-2022, 01:11 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Kauket - 03-25-2022, 02:03 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by DTR-Sunset - 03-25-2022, 02:05 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by 27. Angriffsstaffel - 03-25-2022, 05:47 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 03-25-2022, 09:38 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Groshyr - 03-25-2022, 02:06 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Arcana - 03-25-2022, 02:13 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Kauket - 03-25-2022, 02:18 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by vladimir26 - 03-25-2022, 02:25 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by xenomorph - 03-25-2022, 02:48 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Karlotta - 03-25-2022, 04:47 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Oprixy - 03-25-2022, 02:31 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Trade Convoy Logistical - 04-07-2022, 01:22 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 04-07-2022, 02:25 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by vladimir26 - 04-07-2022, 02:51 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Dimitrius - 05-08-2022, 08:29 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Hunter_Steel - 05-08-2022, 09:12 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Fab - 05-08-2022, 09:21 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Xithon - 06-06-2022, 08:16 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 06-07-2022, 05:23 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Xithon - 06-07-2022, 09:37 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Festus McBoyle - 11-13-2022, 12:55 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 11-20-2022, 11:19 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Couden - 12-01-2022, 10:08 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Creutzfeuer - 12-01-2022, 10:23 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Couden - 12-01-2022, 10:33 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Arnold - 12-02-2022, 02:19 PM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Shiloh - 12-01-2022, 10:47 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 12-01-2022, 11:46 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Couden - 12-02-2022, 12:28 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Xenon - 12-02-2022, 02:06 AM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Lemon - 12-02-2022, 08:28 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Sombs - 12-02-2022, 06:05 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 12-02-2022, 08:07 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Binski - 12-02-2022, 08:25 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Darius - 12-02-2022, 08:45 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Darius - 12-02-2022, 08:47 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Lemon - 12-02-2022, 09:21 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Binski - 12-02-2022, 11:14 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Darius - 12-02-2022, 09:29 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Lemon - 12-02-2022, 09:33 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Darius - 12-02-2022, 09:38 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by sindroms - 12-02-2022, 09:39 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Lemon - 12-02-2022, 09:44 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 12-02-2022, 03:48 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Sombs - 12-02-2022, 06:19 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Megaera - 12-02-2022, 08:22 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by SnakeLancerHaven - 12-02-2022, 09:17 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Groshyr - 12-03-2022, 04:00 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Kronstadt - 12-03-2022, 07:17 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Sally - 09-11-2023, 07:53 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by vladimir26 - 09-11-2023, 09:04 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Implosion - 10-07-2023, 09:59 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by 9th.Legion - 10-07-2023, 10:24 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Culbrelai - 10-07-2023, 10:15 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Couden - 10-07-2023, 11:09 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by vladimir26 - 10-07-2023, 10:17 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Implosion - 10-07-2023, 10:27 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by vladimir26 - 10-07-2023, 10:53 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Implosion - 10-07-2023, 11:17 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by LuckyOne - 10-07-2023, 11:31 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by vladimir26 - 10-07-2023, 11:38 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Implosion - 10-08-2023, 12:04 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Omicron - 10-07-2023, 11:42 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by vladimir26 - 10-08-2023, 12:35 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 10-08-2023, 11:06 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 10-08-2023, 11:18 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Couden - 11-28-2023, 07:37 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Couden - 02-08-2024, 05:18 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Derpcopter - 11-28-2023, 07:43 PM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by 9th.Legion - 11-28-2023, 08:02 PM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Lemon - 11-28-2023, 08:03 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Derpcopter - 11-28-2023, 08:12 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Lusitano - 11-28-2023, 08:28 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by JadeTornado - 12-31-2023, 08:24 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Ravenna Nagash - 01-01-2024, 12:15 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Elvinos2003 - 01-10-2024, 11:29 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by ceu - 01-11-2024, 12:33 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Elvinos2003 - 01-11-2024, 12:45 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Stoner_Steve - 02-03-2024, 07:22 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by mustbeaguy - 03-15-2024, 10:01 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Culbrelai - 03-15-2024, 10:15 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Dark Chocolate - 05-30-2024, 08:18 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Shelco - 09-02-2024, 09:10 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Sloths - 09-02-2024, 11:54 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Nepotu - 11-05-2024, 10:39 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Seapanda - 11-05-2024, 11:44 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Nepotu - 11-05-2024, 11:56 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by McKarnigan - 11-06-2024, 12:05 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Nepotu - 11-06-2024, 01:41 AM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Culbrelai - 11-06-2024, 01:21 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Fab - 11-06-2024, 02:36 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Nepotu - 11-06-2024, 09:35 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Kauket - 11-06-2024, 09:36 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Arcana - 11-06-2024, 09:46 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Mr.Harris - 11-06-2024, 09:54 AM
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RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Lusitano - 11-06-2024, 07:32 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Traxit - 11-06-2024, 07:52 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by EisenSeele - 11-06-2024, 07:53 PM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by EisenSeele - 11-07-2024, 12:39 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Hawksmoor - 11-07-2024, 03:20 AM
RE: Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback - by Lord Chaos - 11-07-2024, 02:25 AM
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